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+1 For Vaporesso, I swapped to the Xros Pro a few weeks ago from an Innokin T20, loads better.
The thing most folk forget, ignore, or don't care about re: quitting is the hand to mouth action. Overcoming that is a major stumbling block.

As for where to buy from, I can highly recommend VapeClub, place an order before 9PM for next day delivery, incl. weekends (over £20 spend) good prices, reward scheme, and for a change the helpline is actually helpful.
 
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Propylene glycol is generally regarded as safe for human consumption, but there are some potential health risks associated with its use in e-cigarettes and vape juices. It is also believed to possibly irritate the throat and lungs due to its thin composition, although this has not been definitively proven.

When I say 'generally regarded' i certainly dont arrive at that conclusion from a get together down the local pub. It is generally regarded by the health authorities.

I think in life there are a lot of substances that people consume that are in relation unsafe. The top of the list there would be alcohol, which is a known poison, then we have caffeine, sugar, certain e-numbers but also things that people dont take through choice, namely pollution, from industry and more specifically vehicles.

If the argument for not vaping is that it is because of the ingredients, the same aspects of the argument must be placed onto the other harmful substances - alcohol, etc etc. But more so on things like pollutants.

Some might ask - Oh why do you vape ? or smoke ? when those are bad for your health and possibly for others around you, to which I could reply, Why do you make me breathe the fumes off your car/van/spacecraft when there are other non polluting options available.

So we all do things that are far from healthy for us, but in the case of vaping versus smoking cigarettes, vaping produces little to no effect on other people.
A decent argument and a lot of what you say is true but of all your points you can’t control what pollutants are put out into the atmosphere, or control what vehicles drive past your house , you can of course control what you inhale , consume or. You are free to make the choice to vape , smoke etc but it was not considered unsafe to inhale 2nd hand smoke until quite recently and I think the same will apply to vapes and e cigarettes in years to come . My concern is and this is my personal opinion that if you have smoked for many years, you give up and switch to vapes and year’s down the line it’s proved they are harmful in many ways what would do then ( as above hand to mouth) . I’m not a hypocrite as I was a heavy smoker, I was also a heavy cannabis smoker and I gave up both -weed 1st then the cigarettes. Giving up cigarettes was by far the hardest. So again personally I think vapes are less harmful than cigarettes but as the years roll on this could change. Another side of this thread is probably a more important question ( where do you buy your vapes from ?? ) do you know what ingredients are used , are they safe , much like bootleg cigarettes or moonshine , or prescription only medication that is freely available on the net .. just my own thoughts as I have no problem with what other adults choose to do..
 
In January this year I started the process of getting a replacement front tooth, an implant, because I didn't like the gap caused by losing the existing tooth. I was told I'd probably need a bone graft and that if I continued to smoke the bone graft would almost certainly fail. So, a few days later, I woke up on a Monday morning and decided to stop smoking by not opening the new packet of cigarettes I'd got in my hand to have my first smoke of the day. That packet of unopened cigarettes is still sitting just inside the door of my house, and it's sat there for just over eight months.

What has surprised me is just how easy it was to give up smoking. I struggled a bit, and I mean a bit, for about three to five days, but after that I had little or no urge to get a nicotine fix. The only hint I now have, months later, that I haven't quite fully kicked the habit is when I leave the house I sometimes instinctively pat my pockets to check that my cigarettes are there before remembering I no longer need to do that.

I'm aware of quite a number of people who struggled to give up, with quite a number failing, and many went to all sorts of lengths to stop smoking, e.g., self help groups, patches, hypnotism, vapes, cold turkey, patches, etc. So with having witnessed all those strugglers in mind I resisted the idea of giving up for years because I reckoned I'd be too weak willed to succeed.

To this day I cannot put my finger on why I found it relatively easy to stop smoking, but perhaps my brain was simply in the right place at the right time for me to succeed. In truth, I can't really say I feel any healthier, except I may have a bit more puff when riding up hills, I can smell things a bit more acutely, although taste doesn't seem to be any better, but the finances have taken a boost, which is the most obvious benefit I notice.

As to the question "Which vape?" Not a clue, I'm afraid. Never tried one. Sorry. Slainte.
 
Mine is the 88Vape classic. Home Bargain, Range type stores.
Carry plenty of replacement bits if needed too.
Like it because its not big and chunky, charges well and good battery life. About £5 for classic or £8 for the advanced one. Includes, vape, battery and charger too.
 
What has surprised me is just how easy it was to give up smoking.
I think it is easier for people now due to the changes in social attitudes and that smoking does not make you some handsome cowboy like the adverts of old portrayed but someone who has a nasty stench that follows them round and there are no hidding places anymore. I am sure many of us can remember people with those dirty old yellow stained fingers and so giving up is now the norm rather than participating.
 
I used to run a vape review YouTube channel here in the UK for a number of years, and generally the advice I've given is to find a reputable vape shop and go in and ask their advice. As long as they don't give you a product that means you're rebuilding coils and such then they should be able to offer a number of options for you.
Vaping stopped me smoking and is no-where near as bad as combustible cigarettes, and things like 'popcorn lung' are vastly overblown by the media - mainly due to it coming from workers in a popcorn manufacturing plant where they inhaled diacetyl consistently, although the law suit eventually failed when the workers sued the company due to lack of evidence.
Where vaping is involved the biggest concern was the use of diacetyl in some flavourings, however, this was vastly overblown but still manufacturers changed habits using less of the stuff to sweeten their flavourings.

I could go on about this all day, but I made this video some years ago that may answer some questions -

If you're going to switch from tobacco to vaping though, I would absolutely suggest finding a flavour that is not trying to replicate tobacco and is enjoyable in it's own right, that way it removes the desire to spark up by giving you a different flavour to enjoy rather than reminisce on the old smokes.
Also if you've not smoked for a bit, go into it with 0% nicotine as it likely won't be need because you're replicating the motions rather than weening off the nic. Funnily enough, the highly aggressive component of cigarettes that addicts you is the chemicals added in, and not the nicotine on it's own.

Over the years I've gone through a lot of the media rampage posts about the dangers of vaping, and pretty much all of them have been proven wrong, false studies, or outright debunked.
This is an interesting read from Kings College - https://www.kcl.ac.uk/news/vaping-s...than-smoking-largest-review-of-its-kind-finds
 
To this day I cannot put my finger on why I found it relatively easy to stop smoking, but perhaps my brain was simply in the right place at the right time for me to succeed.
I saw a doctor. Still off the fags? No, I lasted about five months. Don't worry, you weren't ready. When you're ready, you'll stop.
He was right. 16/4/04.
 
I think it is easier for people now due to the changes in social attitudes and that smoking does not make you some handsome cowboy like the adverts of old portrayed but someone who has a nasty stench that follows them round and there are no hidding places anymore. I am sure many of us can remember people with those dirty old yellow stained fingers and so giving up is now the norm rather than participating.
I believe that several of those "handsome cowboys" died from the effects of smoking.

Here they are in fact
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marlboro_Man#Smoking-related_deaths

I've lost mates. and family to smoking. I packed up 35 years ago.

I know the OP was asking "which vape" but personally I wouldn't be looking for any addictive habit.

It was hard to pack smoking up, and I'm not going back.
 
I gave up the nicotine gum and the sublingual nicotine pills (foul things) after five months when I had the notice that I would have to pay for them. I got the cold sweats and the skin on my palms peeled.
 
Not that im aware of. But im not sure theres any definitive term or name other than the rechargeable type uses liquid, so asking for one of those will mean you need buy the liquid. TBH a vape shop would be the best place for advice.

Actually thinking on it maybe 'refillable' is the only or best descriptive
I tink they're called e-cigarettes.
I've been vaping for >10 years now...I wouldn't have managed giving up smoking without it.

The company I use - and would highly recommend - is called "Totally Wicked" They have a range of e-cigs, they are really strict on safety of batteries and liquid, make their own liquid in the UK with a massive range of flavours, have v good customer services (people actually answer the phone and talk to you!) and .... they're v reasonable priced.
 
Any thoughts on how the budget hits the Vapers on here? The way I see it, we just got bent over big time
 
What has surprised me is just how easy it was to give up smoking. I struggled a bit, and I mean a bit, for about three to five days, but after that I had little or no urge to get a nicotine fix. The only hint I now have, months later, that I haven't quite fully kicked the habit is when I leave the house I sometimes instinctively pat my pockets to check that my cigarettes are there before remembering I no longer need to do that.
I'm pretty much an expert on stopping smoking. Must have given up (ho ho ho) something like 10 times, even though sometimes there was a couple years of clean in between. I'm properly stopped now though, been many years and lifestyle changes back it up.

Because I also found it easy to stop, I always found it easy to start again. Particularly when going to the pub, because get a bit drunk and a pint and a fag go together. But also because I'd alway have this "wotever, I'll just stop again" thing in my head. And it was easy to stop again. I think the very low volumes that I'd got down to by the end of it certainly helped. Basically just having one after each meal plus a couple more when approriate. Just enough to stop me from getting irritable.

People build it up in their heads that it's this terrible hard thing. Obviously of you do 15-20 a day that heavy mental habit reinforcement is going to be harder to break, but ultimately, on the physical addiction bit you feel a bit crappy and sort of go out of your mind for like 2-3 days then it levels out quite quick. Having a cold is much worse - the difference is you can kill an urge to smoke by just having one. A cold, you can't escape. The longer term habit hooks are also a problem but.. in those moments just don't put one in your mouth (sorry but that really is it)? Five minutes later you'll be thinking about something else and the urge will be forgotten until the next time. At which point you just do the same thing until the urges become so far spaced apart it's a non-issue. It really ain't hard.

The best driver really came from the first time I tried to give up after ~15 years of smoking. When I realised I was addicted and had a problem because I couldn't "just stop" (first attempt was dismal failure). But I learned to hate tobacco companies instantly because of what they'd done to me, and that helps a lot. You don't want to give them your money after that. If you think of smoking as a pleasure rather than a problem that you need to get rid of, you've got a much bigger hill to climb. The only reason smoking feels like a pleasure is because you have an addiction to satisfy. You feel good when you satisfy it. You deliberately give yourself an itch to scratch just so you can feel some sort of pleasure to scratch it. A nasty, harmful, supremely expensive itch.

I go on about this (oh look I've written a sermon) because my boy's mum, who I am not friends with, did a lot of damage to our relationship because of her smoking habit when we didn't have any spare disposable income. She was doing about 15 a day when it was costing £7.50 for 20 Mayfair (a long time ago now). Refused to stop and cited it as one of her "little pleasures" with no regard for anything else. That's over £200 a month when we were poor with a new baby in 2012. Didn't even have the decency to cut down and smoke roll-ups. She's still doing it now AFAIK, filter-tipped ciggies still. That's where my maintenance goes, not on my kid.

She also lied about giving up when she was pregant, smoked all the way through it, trying to hide it from me (was obvious). I caught her going out for a fag when she was on the labour ward being induced.

That's addiction for you.
 
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To answer the OP :ROFLMAO: - I've never vaped, will never happen. If my find my kid vaping, he'll catch it hot.
 
I saw a doctor. Still off the fags? No, I lasted about five months. Don't worry, you weren't ready. When you're ready, you'll stop.
He was right. 16/4/04.
I stopped about 2 months before you. Bought a load of nicotine gum, and threw it in the bin. Seemed pointless to swap one addiction for another. I also read a book by Alan Car(R), which I think helped. Probably the biggest help was stopping at the same time as my wife, we both wanted to support each other in the endeavour.
I'd say it took about 3 weeks to get over it. The increase in fitness was unbelievable.
I wish I'd done it 30 years earlier, might not have needed the triple bypass op I had 2 years ago. Teeth would likely be a lot better too.
 
I was a smoker for a long time. I resolved to give up when I saw, in a shaft of sunlight, a tendril of smoke from my cigarette snaking up my five year-old son's nose as he sat on my lap watching TV. I was horrified.

I think a lot of it was association; get in the car - light up a cig, fire up the PC in my home office - light up a cig, pour a beer - light up a cig, finish a meal - light up a cig etc., etc.

I managed to kick the habit when we went on holiday to my sister's place in Florida. I had a no-smoking hire-car, no smoking in my sister's house, American beer (no association with real beer...). No nicotine associated activity apart from a few cravings after a meal. I had thrown my cigarettes into a rubbish bin at Gatwick Airport as we were boarding the aeroplane and I had hardly any craving at all. I'm sure being completely out of my home and work smoking environment had everything to do with it. That was nearly 40 years ago and that's the last time I ever smoked anything.
 
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