Whats the best 18 volt drill and impact driver.

[Phil Pascoe]

I don't use the screws or glue that comes with anything as a matter of principle.

 

[Mark A]

I don't use the screws or glue that comes with anything as a matter of principle.

I generally don't either. Just used it as an example after watching my electrician struggle the other day with an external bulkhead light.

He still managed to install them all upsidedown...

 

[MikeJhn]

So no reason at all to use one on Timber, just a fad.

Mike

 

[Droogs]

if you are working on carpentry stuff like decking or studs etc with particularly long screws they are very useful things to have. If you are working on small cabinetry or smaller solid wood items then no need for them as you would usually drill an appropriately size pilot hole for any screws you might use

 

[AJB Temple]

Depends what you are doing Mike. As droogs said. I recently hung a pair of large hardwood drive gates on oak posts. With gate automation and hinges we had to drive in 40 heavy duty coach screws. Impact driver makes short work of this. If you use things like 150mm or 200mm timberfix screw fastenings, you will be very glad of an inpact driver. For furniture making, much less useful.

 

[Phil Pascoe]

Our turner's club use an impact driver and everyone seems to think it's the mutt's nuts ... except me. It doesn't enter their heads that that thing is why they're always having to use chewed up screws. They are not good for everything.

 

[MikeJhn]

AJB Temple, as you say, if I was doing Chippy work all day I can see one possibly being useful, but for carpentry just can't see it, incidentally, my 18volt DeWalt multi purpose drill will put a 200mm decking screw straight through whatever you are screwing into, that includes 100mm Oak posts, never tried it with Coach screws.

Mike

 

[Beau]

I have asked this question before, "Why do I need an impact driver on timber"? please someone enlighten me, is it just to reduce the torque on your wrist.

Mike

I know I would not want to be without one in my tool kit. Used to be happy with my old 3 speed Dewalt drill driver for everything but an impact driver is another step up again for decent sized screws and coach screws. Far less chance of cam out with one and so much power for so little weight. Still use a drill driver for light work when plenty of oomf is not required and good clutch is needed to avoid breaking screws.

 

[MrDavidRoberts]

So no reason at all to use one on Timber, just a fad.

Mike

Saying that... is just sooooooooo wrong...
Seriously just borrow one from someone and try it out even for 15minutes, only than you will realize what that thing actually is

People who haven't even used one should really NOT comment about impact drivers, it's a completely different machine.
My impact is under 12cm long and has a weight of like 700-800grams, yet If I want to drive 30cm long bolt, I have to keep it in place by just 1 finger. Now go take a tape measure/scales and measure yours, I bet you are always struggling to access places to screw your screws in just because your drill driver is so huge and it simply won't fit in some places.


watch this video, perhaps the best video for comparison between impact/regular drill
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGzSu5jgmPQ

If everything you do is make some ugly fences where the quality doesn't really matters , than yes- regular drill driver is just fine, that is if you want aching wrists at end of the day, if you want to do anything else stop being such arrogant person and just go try one out!
Even with small screws it's much better than drill driver, as I said= completely different machines.

Each tool has its own use, if you don't want to spend money on impact driver- that's fine, you can make do with drill driver as well, but at a cost...

 

[MrDavidRoberts]

Our turner's club use an impact driver and everyone seems to think it's the mutt's nuts ... except me. It doesn't enter their heads that that thing is why they're always having to use chewed up screws. They are not good for everything.

So I bet you haven't even really used one?
chewing screws up means your Bits are cheap crap not fit for impacts, On regular drill drivers you can use less quality bits and it will be fine.
Infact you get a LOT LESS damaged screws/bits if you use proper impact bit+ Impact driver than you get with a regular drill driver.

#-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o

Please stop making such comments people if you haven't even used the thing...

 

[AJB Temple]

I agree with David that an impact with correct bits causes far less damage to screw heads. On mine you can set the torque very precisely and go as slow as you want (so the impact kicks in only when needed).

My 18 volt cordless drill is also a combination tool but the impact is far better for driving screw and bolts. The thing I like is if I need pilot holes (say) the drill does that job and the driver bangs the screw home very fast and with no damage. I managed without one for years, but am glad I bought one now. 8)

 

[MikeJhn]

So no reason at all to use one on Timber, just a fad.

Mike

S

stop being such arrogant person and just go try one out!
...

That's good coming from you. =D>

Mike

 

[Phil Pascoe]

Our turner's club use an impact driver and everyone seems to think it's the mutt's nuts ... except me. It doesn't enter their heads that that thing is why they're always having to use chewed up screws. They are not good for everything.

So I bet you haven't even really used one?
chewing screws up means your Bits are cheap rubbish not fit for impacts, On regular drill drivers you can use less quality bits and it will be fine.
Infact you get a LOT LESS damaged screws/bits if you use proper impact bit+ Impact driver than you get with a regular drill driver.

#-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o



Please stop making such comments people if you haven't even used the thing...

Don't bang your head too hard, you might just dislodge the little you have in it. Of course I've used one, they're brilliant - for what they're designed for. They are not designed for repeatedly inserting and undoing small gauge screws. As Mike says, they are neither good nor necessary for everything.

 

[AJB Temple]

Gentlemen ...why be unpleasant to each other? We all have opinions and respect each other surely?

 

[RogerBoyle]

Its quite simple There really is no best 18v drill and impact driver. what suits one person will not suit another. and so the debate will continue
I like the Aeg
I don't like the Makita but I do like their angled cordless drill
I like the Dewalt
I like the Milwakee
I hate the Festool.
I don't like the Bosch

The way these tools are advancing is amazing and what may be great this year will only in all likelyhood be middle of the road next year.

 

[Beau]

Its quite simple There really is no best 18v drill and impact driver. what suits one person will not suit another. and so the debate will continue
I like the Aeg
I don't like the Makita but I do like their angled cordless drill
I like the Dewalt
I like the Milwakee
I hate the Festool.
I don't like the Bosch

The way these tools are advancing is amazing and what may be great this year will only in all likelyhood be middle of the road next year.

What you doing talking sense on a thread like this. Going to ruin everyones fun

 

[Duncan A]

my advice would be go with a brushless makita set cant go wrong really

however, just to throw a wild card in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEAUmjqvLSM

i have one of these and its hands down the best impact ive ever used, i could never go back to a normal impact now. and because of its sustained torque, drilling with self feed bits its a beast with no torque on your wrist

i think its rated at 90nm but i have a 200nm impact and it wipes the floor with it, i think these new oil impulse drivers are the next big thing, an end to the horrible noise of impacts with much better performance

Makita also have an oil pulse impact driver: http://www.screwfix.com/p/makita-dts141 ... _container
Bit spendy at £310 - especially at the quoted 40Nm max torque, even if it is more effective than "oil-less torque".
Duncan

 

[Phil Pascoe]

Its quite simple There really is no best 18v drill and impact driver. what suits one person will not suit another. and so the debate will continue
I like the Aeg
I don't like the Makita but I do like their angled cordless drill
I like the Dewalt
I like the Milwakee
I hate the Festool.
I don't like the Bosch

The way these tools are advancing is amazing and what may be great this year will only in all likelyhood be middle of the road next year.

What you doing talking sense on a thread like this. Going to ruin everyones fun

It could be a bit of fun to see how long before two of us came up with the same list. Without commenting on stuff I've not used (which would be rather pointless, wouldn't it? :lol: ) mine are
Likes /
DeWalt
Bosch
Hitachi

Dislikes/
Makita
Skil

 

[MikeJhn]

I'll join in.
Likes
Any new tool.
DeWalt
Makita
Westfelia
RP Bandsaws
Leigh dovetail jig
Hitachi Routers
Draper Routers
UJK Router table

Dislikes
Not much that I have bought.

Mike

 

[DiscoStu]

Although I recently bought a new Impact and Combi Drill set from Dewalt I think that the Ryobi impact driver is excellent and fantastic value for money.

They now have a brushless drill which might be good, I felt their other drills were a little lacking, but the impact is fabulous.