What smoother?

[Mr Ed]

I'd like to think thats its possible to own, appreciate and use beautiful premium tools AND have a primary focus on the quality of the end product being made. Thats certainly how I see my own position with this - I manage to avoid the shiny things distracting me from the work at hand.

Cheers, Ed

 

[Lord Nibbo]

I have to say that I find this an interesting thread, come on guys lets see who are the collector out there.

Well here are some starters for ten, but I feel if Robin Lee posted we would be blown out of the water well and truly. :lol:

Couldn't resist adding one or two manufactured by photoshop :lol:

 

[Mr Ed]

Jeez I think you got your point across LN!

Seriously, there is something odd going on with the site tonight as posts seem to generate an error message saying they failed, but they do go on. Obviously multiple posts is another glitch.

Probably correct itself soon?

Cheers, Ed

 

[woodbloke]

...or even one of these:

a signed smoother, made by Krenov himself - Rob

 

[Lord Nibbo]

Seriously, there is something odd going on with the site tonight as posts seem to generate an error message saying they failed, but they do go on. Obviously multiple posts is another glitch.

Probably correct itself soon?

Cheers, Ed

Yes I got that message too, something about Debug mode line 111 :lol:

 

[Lord Nibbo]

Seriously, there is something odd going on with the site tonight as posts seem to generate an error message saying they failed, but they do go on. Obviously multiple posts is another glitch.

Probably correct itself soon?

Cheers, Ed

Yes I got that message too, something about Debug mode line 111 :lol:

Edit..... This post too and I only sent it once, two for the price of one :lol:

 

[Mikey R]

Hi everyone, Im new here, though Ive been lurking for a while. Im just getting back into wood after a fair few years out.

As someone who does this as a hobby, for me the doing is more important than the end product. Using good tools would make the doing way more fun - if I had enough spare cash for good tools

Ive got a record #4 with a hock iron and breaker, it still needs a little more work before it can take on curly maple without tearing. Id like to get this one fettled before I get another smoother, because Im finding the learning is as fun as the doing.

But now Im thinking one of those bevel down smoothers could be the next purchase...

 

[woodbloke]

Mike - welcome to the forum - Rob

 

[Waka]

Mike

Welcome to the forum and the slippery slop.

 

[Mikey R]

Mike - welcome to the forum - Rob

Mike

Welcome to the forum and the slippery slop.

Hi Rob, Waka,

Thanks for the welcome! And yes, I have realised I am addicted to planes, I picked up a couple more planes earlier in the week, an old stanley #6 for jointing and what looks like a stanley #27 but with a 2" iron, both in need of a bit of a clean.

 

[matthewwh]

I find that using good tools puts me in the right frame of mind to do good work. It is much, much easier to tap into one's own creative side whilst enjoying an inspiring object that functions beautifully and has been made with care and attention to detail.

I can completely understand tool collectors just enjoying the beauty or rarity of a tool, although for me personally, function is a more important part of the deal than form. The way a blade feels on the sharpening stone, the way the tool transfers sensation (or lack of it) back into the users hand.

Taking your first effortless whisper thin shaving on burred timber with a perfectly tuned infill smoother is the motivational equivalent of taking an aspiring chef for lunch at Claridges; I can't help feeling that he would be missing part of the experience if he didn't actually taste the food though.

Cheers,

Matthew

4 smoothers - all of which get experienced regularly

 

[Paul Chapman]

Hi Ed,

I said I'd post some pictures showing the use of a Veritas scraper plane as a 'super smoother'.

I've been working on this table top, which is made up of 8 oak boards.

The top was jointed using biscuits (the pencil marks show where they are), so it was pretty flat. However, working on the under-side first, I found that there were a couple of small areas where I was getting some tear out. The problem with tear out is that it is not always possible to tell how deep it will be. Too deep and you either have to remove more material than you want, or scrape a bit of a hollow, which is also unsatisfactory. When I smoothed the top side I decided to do it all with the Veritas scraper plane so as to ensure that I didn't get any tear out at all.

Here's the almost finished job

I'm delighted with the result. A silky smooth finish without any hint of tear out. The plane proved a delight to use. When it's set up properly it's very light to push - much lighter than pushing a conventional plane with a steep back-bevel. And the large sole with the blade in a central position is very stable. Honing the blade and turning a hook on it is very easy and I found that you can re-form the hook without honing the blade at least once without the cut suffering.

The scraper plane does not, of course, replace the smoothing plane but is an option worth considering for some jobs.

Cheers :wink:

Paul

 

[bugbear]

Hi Ed,

Please accept my compliments on a nice clamping solution!

BugBear

 

[Paul Chapman]

Thanks, BB

Here's one end, slipped over a Veritas bench dog

And the other, secured with two Veritas Wonder Pups

Both pieces of wood were off-cuts from cutting out the top.

Cheers :wink:

Paul

 

[Mr Ed]

Thanks for that Paul.

I've been considering the LV scraper for a while, so I may go for that AND the BUS thereby covering all bases. Thats of course if I manage to convince myself away from something more exotic...

http://www.breseplane.com/index.html

Cheers, Ed

 

[Paul Chapman]

http://www.breseplane.com/index.html

They look nice 8) 8)

 

[Aled Dafis]

Is it just me, or is there a (very) close resmblance between the Brese plane and the Holtey 11-SA.

http://www.holteyplanes.com/11sa.htm

Can anyone shed some light on Ron Brese's "rivet method" of attatching the sole of the plane to the sides, is it the same method as Karl Holtey uses for his No 98 smoother?

Ed, as you're really getting into this toolmaking habit, why not have a go at making a smoothing plane?

Here's one I had a go at

https://www.ukworkshop.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=25988

Which also shows a (very) close resemblance to the Holtey 11-SA.

Regards

Aled

 

[Mr Ed]

Ed, as you're really getting into this toolmaking habit, why not have a go at making a smoothing plane?

I have thought about it a great deal, but cannot quite convince myself that I can make the time, or have all the skills. I have also considered Ron Brese's kit for the small smoother, but looking at the link to Jameel Abrams site it looks like a lot of (complex) work.

I'd like a book or a course on making an infill to fill in some of my knowledge gaps first I think.

Still a lot more pondering to do on this I think...

Cheers, Ed

 

[Escudo]

Ed, I wonder have you seen this on the fleebay?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Veritas-Bevel...39:1|66:2|65:12|240:1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

I have one of these planes and it is very good for final smoothing, it seems to be better than my LN number 4 1/2. The blades are also compatable with the other planes in the low angle family, the jack and jointer.

Hope this is of interest. (it almost seems as though I know what I am talking about. ) Regards, Tony.

 

[bugbear]

I'd like a book or a course on making an infill to fill in some of my knowledge gaps first I think.

I know of no course, and only one published book - making and modifying woodworking tools by Jim Kingshott, the price of which varies with which forum is presently having an infill obsession.

However, several makers, both professional and amateur have published decent step-by-steps on the web. None of them are "complete", but I suspect if you found and read them all, you'd be well placed (and at the very least, entertained).

If you do go the trouble of finding them all, puiblishing your own page of links somewhere would be a Good Thing.

BugBear