Phil Pascoe
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Lidl used to sell kangaroo steaks which were excellent - I don't know whether they still do.
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Or that lack of flavour may be that the venison in Waitrose is farmed from NZ.
Even some of the burgers etc that say UK venison will have a proportion of imported meat.
AJB Temple
Finely figured
This is what Waitrose say:
Where does Waitrose venison come from?
Our venison comes from red deer aged 12-27 months, which are reared on British and New Zealand farms. Raised naturally, with minimal interference, the deer thrive on a grass-based diet, producing tender, well-flavoured meat. All our venison can be traced back to the farms and estates where it was raised.
I had no idea. I assumed that as deer is plentiful here and farmed, it must be UK sourced. I suppose they will say the UK economy needs trade deals with New Zealand
Where does Waitrose venison come from?
Our venison comes from red deer aged 12-27 months, which are reared on British and New Zealand farms. Raised naturally, with minimal interference, the deer thrive on a grass-based diet, producing tender, well-flavoured meat. All our venison can be traced back to the farms and estates where it was raised.
I had no idea. I assumed that as deer is plentiful here and farmed, it must be UK sourced. I suppose they will say the UK economy needs trade deals with New Zealand
Droogs
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I greet the deer I bump into when out on the estate with a bow
read that which ever way you like,
But is has been nigh on impossible to get decent venison recently and the salami making has really suffered. I have 9Kg of boar in the freezer waiting to meet some tender bambi
read that which ever way you like,
But is has been nigh on impossible to get decent venison recently and the salami making has really suffered. I have 9Kg of boar in the freezer waiting to meet some tender bambi
Phil Pascoe
Established Member
Venison's probably cheaper here than in the Land of the Long White Cloud. My sister is a naturalised Kiwi, and when she comes back she always comments that NZ lamb is cheaper here than it is there.
You can nick the threaded rod idea!Camping breakfast this morning.
Another acceptable way to eat steak.
Prepare it before you go. Shallots, garlic, basil, par boiled spuds cut small and rib eye.
Made up for the rain last night! What a weekend to go camping.
*' I've paid for it we're blood* going!'
Not had wagyu, maybe one day when my wallet is heavier. I can heartily recommend an immersion circulator for sous vide cooking of meats. Totally transformed my steaks etc, even a cheap thin cut is vastly improved.
woodhutt
Established Member
152 GBP per kg is a heck of a price! We pay NZ$120 /kg (about GBP60/kg) for chilled grass fed Wagyu with a marble score of 3 - 4.
Pete
Pete
AJB Temple
Finely figured
Yes. Very expensive. Genuine Japanese and the supplier has a reputation for quality though.
I need to try sous vide. I have a vacuum drawer in the new kitchen, but no Sous Vide machine or immersion unit. A US friend of mine, who is a but of a nutty professor (maths - he is an actual professor), went on and on about sous vide a couple of years ago, though I didn't bite. But he has now moved on. The latest "in thing" is to get a dry aged effect on the cheap by finely grinding a special rice, which still has all the bacteria in it (available on line) and rubbing it into the meat and leaving for a coupe of days. Allegedly turns ordinary beef into as good as dry aged.
No 1 offspring and I are trying it separately. If it works out I will post up details.
I need to try sous vide. I have a vacuum drawer in the new kitchen, but no Sous Vide machine or immersion unit. A US friend of mine, who is a but of a nutty professor (maths - he is an actual professor), went on and on about sous vide a couple of years ago, though I didn't bite. But he has now moved on. The latest "in thing" is to get a dry aged effect on the cheap by finely grinding a special rice, which still has all the bacteria in it (available on line) and rubbing it into the meat and leaving for a coupe of days. Allegedly turns ordinary beef into as good as dry aged.
No 1 offspring and I are trying it separately. If it works out I will post up details.
AJB Temple
Finely figured
Thanks for the reminder. Koji. Yes. We ordered some off Amazon, but it came in bags in liquid form, which was not what I was expecting. Tried it anyway, and it definitely changed the flavour for the better, but was not the authentic process. We will be trying again.
Do you reckon that an immersion heater is as good as a proper sous vide bath? I balked at the latter because they are such big ugly lumps and quite expensive if I don't use it much. I will keep my eye out for the Aldi one.
Do you reckon that an immersion heater is as good as a proper sous vide bath? I balked at the latter because they are such big ugly lumps and quite expensive if I don't use it much. I will keep my eye out for the Aldi one.
Is the Aldi one a small unit you put on the side of pan not a dedicated machine Rorshach? I think I saw that once in there with a small shrink wrapping unit but it I held off it as an impulse purchase (right or wrong). I'm looking at doing the kitchen next year and I only hear good things about sous vide from a couple of mates who are really into their cooking. I know this is a slight swerve from topic but make hay while the sun shines.... sorry Ajb. Any advice on machines guys?
Yes ours clips onto the side of a container. You can use a saucepan or similar. What you want is something that is deep enough to submerge the sous vide cooker and food, but not so massive that you are heating gallons of water.
I went to a discount hardware shop and found a small plastic storage box with lid, it's big enough to do a couple of steaks or chicken breats, holds a couple of litres of water and has the lid to hold in the heat and stem. I made a cut out to fit around the immersion circulator. Works a treat.
To use it I pour water from the kettle into the container and have a jug of cold water as well. The IC tells you the water temp on it's screen so I try my best to approximate it by mixing. Hot tap water would work for some recipes too as that is almost hot enough for a rare steak. You then set the temp you want it starts moving the water around and heating it up. Once you get the right temp you put in your meat and set a timer. Time is not critical, I cook chicken breasts for 1.5 hours but you could leave them for 3 or 4 hours no problem. You will never get a juicier piece of chicken then from a sous vide, makes the best chicken salad as well.
I went to a discount hardware shop and found a small plastic storage box with lid, it's big enough to do a couple of steaks or chicken breats, holds a couple of litres of water and has the lid to hold in the heat and stem. I made a cut out to fit around the immersion circulator. Works a treat.
To use it I pour water from the kettle into the container and have a jug of cold water as well. The IC tells you the water temp on it's screen so I try my best to approximate it by mixing. Hot tap water would work for some recipes too as that is almost hot enough for a rare steak. You then set the temp you want it starts moving the water around and heating it up. Once you get the right temp you put in your meat and set a timer. Time is not critical, I cook chicken breasts for 1.5 hours but you could leave them for 3 or 4 hours no problem. You will never get a juicier piece of chicken then from a sous vide, makes the best chicken salad as well.
AJB Temple
Finely figured
Once new kitchen is commissioned I will give it a try.
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All the supermarkets use NZ venison. Often branded as UK but it won't be 100% from the UK.
The Supermarkets all need a product that is uniform in size, colour, flavour and texture which you just don't get from wild deer which is why, the majority of deer culled in the UK end up on the continent.
Crazy.
Anyway In my opinion red deer has the least flavour wild or farmed of the six species we get in the UK. Farmed has less flavour than wild.
Muntjac and Sika being my favourite.
Fallow has a more gamey flavour than the rest
Roe is kind of a half way house.
This is what Waitrose say:
Where does Waitrose venison come from?
Our venison comes from red deer aged 12-27 months, which are reared on British and New Zealand farms. Raised naturally, with minimal interference, the deer thrive on a grass-based diet, producing tender, well-flavoured meat. All our venison can be traced back to the farms and estates where it was raised.
I had no idea. I assumed that as deer is plentiful here and farmed, it must be UK sourced. I suppose they will say the UK economy needs trade deals with New Zealand
All the supermarkets use NZ venison. Often branded as UK but it won't be 100% from the UK.
The Supermarkets all need a product that is uniform in size, colour, flavour and texture which you just don't get from wild deer which is why, the majority of deer culled in the UK end up on the continent.
Crazy.
Anyway In my opinion red deer has the least flavour wild or farmed of the six species we get in the UK. Farmed has less flavour than wild.
Muntjac and Sika being my favourite.
Fallow has a more gamey flavour than the rest
Roe is kind of a half way house.
woodhutt
Established Member
Not sure about venison price comparison as I'm lucky enough to have a neighbour who's a hunter so I get my venison and boar pretty cheap (and fresh).
You're right about the price of lamb though and the quality here is lower. Most NZ quality lamb is exported leaving us the poorer quality meat which IMO is still overpriced. Some of that is due to the declining size of sheep farming here (60 million in the mid 80's down to 30 million now) with a shift towards dairy and beef. Luckily, I am not a lover of lamb so don't miss it.
Pete
Luckily my butcher has his own herd and 2 dry aging cabinets. Means I can buy what I want and then age it. Aged a big sirloin on the bone last year for my birthday, barbecued on the kamado were easily the best steaks I’ve had.
sous vide works for tender but doesn’t make up for flavour. Koji really ups the umami and can help turn bland into inter
Currently enjoying a lot of rare roast beef. Heavy seat in pan, then into oven at 110c and steam till internal of 57c. Absolutely fanastic
this was last weeks tritip
And if you want a good burger- dry aged rib trim with bone marrow on a coarse grind.
sous vide works for tender but doesn’t make up for flavour. Koji really ups the umami and can help turn bland into inter
Currently enjoying a lot of rare roast beef. Heavy seat in pan, then into oven at 110c and steam till internal of 57c. Absolutely fanastic
this was last weeks tritip
And if you want a good burger- dry aged rib trim with bone marrow on a coarse grind.
Mutley Racers
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Hi. The best way to do this is actually use Asian fish sauce, paint a teaspoon on for every 200gs and seal in a bag for 3 days and leave in the fridge. This will give the umami, nutty flavour you get from a well aged steak.
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