Wadkin AGS/P10"

[simonalex]

Hi all - I have recently aquired an AGS/P - I have had an AGS before but wanted the sliding table and scorer - all good so far .

The saw is in pretty good nick apart from one issue. I find that when winding the saw blade down, the tensioning wheel (for the belt connecting the saw blade drive spindle and scorer) binds on the underside of the saw table. :?

This means that the saw blade will not drop below the table surface. I cant believe this is right, and if so has anyone come across this before ???

 

[DaveL]

Hi simonalex,

Welcome to the forum.

I have a Wadkin AGS, but don't know anything about the panel version. Any chance of posting some pictures of the saw and the offending wheel? We might be able to see the solution to your problem.

 

[9fingers]

Welcome Simon,

Just an educated (?) guess but are the belt/pulleys worn or too long a belt been fitted such that the tensioner has to move further than designed to achieve the tension and hits the table?
I can't imagine any saw not being able to lower the blade below the table surface.

Bob

 

[simonalex]

Yeah thought about the belt being wrong, the belt is currently a 660J Poly-V but the manual specifies a 260 JV - sounds like its wrong, but after having my head inside the body of the saw - dont worry saw not even connected to Electricity yet - cant see anything but one position for tensioner.

Am waiting to talk to someone at Wadkin on Mon who might know, however it seems alot of the knowledge has retired!

I know it will be worth it!

 

[9fingers]

Those two belts are within a gnats tadger of one another.
The 660 is in mm and the 260 is in 1/10th of inches ie 26"
Poly V belts dont tend to stretch and any wear on the pulleys does not change the separation much - unlike a single v belt when it wears.

Not sure what else to suggest - I don't own a wadkin anything!

Good luck getting it sorted!

Bob

 

[RogerS]

You might also like to post your question over on the other forum.

http://www.woodworkuk.co.uk/forum/

 

[simonalex]

Mmmmmmmm thanks for all help, still not getting to cause of issue - hopefully I will find a helpful man in the know at Wadkin tomorrow!

enjoy the sun - now its arrived - I think I will close the workshop door and attack the jungle that is the garden

 

[misterfish]

I assume you have the manual for your saw - if not http://www.daltonsmachines.com/uploads/ ... s_List.pdf is a link.

My saw (10BRT) is basically an AGS10 with a sliding table but no scoring blade facility so I can't shed any light on the problem.

Misterfish

 

[simonalex]

Yup got the manual - of course only thing not covered is what I want.

As option B I can tack the tensioning spindle off and not run the scoring saw, not the end of the world with a good quality multitooth blade that is SHARP.

Monday is another day, get the spanners out and start fiddling!

 

[simonalex]

For all those interested.

Apparantly on the AGS/P when wound down, both the scorer and the blade will not drop below the bed completely. As the depth of cut increases the scorer drops away to leave only the main blade, due to geometry of pivot - reasoning being only need a scorer on thinner sheet material and rip saw only on thicker stock.

Only option to produce a flat bed with no blade sticking out (what I want as I will be adding a routing table to one side) need to remove scorer and raise bed enough to allow full blade retraction, this will reduce max depth of cut but worth it, the machine will take a bigger blade (300mm max) if required.

Problem understood thanks to Wadkin (v helpful) and a couple of the 2nd hand machinery guys. All in all still happy having got hold of nice solid machine.

But have pinched thumb while removing the table - hurting alot and now looking for sympathy, but you can all imagine the reality!

 

[katellwood]

At some point someone may have changed the motor, have a look at the pics when I placed a single phase on my AGS. You may need to re-position the motor on its mounting plate

https://www.ukworkshop.co.uk/forums/view ... highlight=