marksupnorth
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Beautifully said, NormanB!
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Flartybarty
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500000 in a day is pretty good. I'm 76 and live in France and was supposed to get a letter from my doctor last week but so far - nada. I can, however, make an appt using the web page but would prefer to wait until my OH is able to do likewise - she's 71. in the meantime I remain indoors as much as poss - fortunately with a large garden.
If when you switch on your computer it says 'Searching for new hardware' Just ignore it, it's probably not important.
What is happening now, today in the UK, no the whole world is the result of years of dedication by an organization we hold dear to our harts, the NHS in the UK and Hospitals around the world. Using the limited recourses they have at their disposal they are out there day on day producing medical miracles. Looking at the Staff of the NHS is something we in the UK should be and are proud off. But are we abusing them and the service? In my view we are, not all of us but there are those out there are. The ones that say they will not have the vaccine, the ones that say this is a hoax. How are they helping?
So what are we the simple people suppose to do, take it or not. What are the implications if we all say no? should we say don't take, then if you become ill you cannot us the NHS? (bit like saying got cancer and you smoke sorry no can treat). Hard but should we be saying this whilst the NHS is at what we are told is at its limit?
We have "clever" people (the bad evil ones in China) that have managed to create something that will kill you and me, and they have released it on the world. We then have other "clever" people (the good ones everyone else) who are trying to work out how it can be stopped. Is this something from Hollywood (if it was then all the good ones would talk with American accents)?.
Flippant may be but when will we see the trees?
The simple thing we have all to remember is that we a dying in large numbers because of some illness periportally from China.
So what are we the simple people suppose to do, take it or not. What are the implications if we all say no? should we say don't take, then if you become ill you cannot us the NHS? (bit like saying got cancer and you smoke sorry no can treat). Hard but should we be saying this whilst the NHS is at what we are told is at its limit?
We have "clever" people (the bad evil ones in China) that have managed to create something that will kill you and me, and they have released it on the world. We then have other "clever" people (the good ones everyone else) who are trying to work out how it can be stopped. Is this something from Hollywood (if it was then all the good ones would talk with American accents)?.
Flippant may be but when will we see the trees?
The simple thing we have all to remember is that we a dying in large numbers because of some illness periportally from China.
Despite being ridiculed for suggesting the UK was forward buying for future winter jabs, it transpires that in today's news Britain is preparing for 40 million extra doses of Valnevas vaccine. We won't get it till 2020 and it's made in Scotland.
Blackswanwood
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Excuse my ignorance but what does periportally mean? It seems to be a medical term relating to the liver?
artie
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Don't you recall, the NHS has been at it's limit every winter for years.
Headlines year after year, patients in corridors on beds o dear. doom and gloom.
NI health minister has returned 90 million to the treasury rather than spend it.
What does that say?
Blackswanwood
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Oh dear - I fear what started as a positive thread is starting to follow the usual C19 path!
Vann
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Yup, thousands of miles - we don't have any vaccines here in New Zealand yet. IIRC the first shipments are due in March.
Even then I'll feel guilty. There are so many countries that need it more than we do.
Yes, it'll be interesting to see how long protection lasts, and whether the virus mutates sufficiently to circumvent some vaccines.
Britain is coming across as being probably the most efficient country with regard to distributing the vaccines. Well done.
Cheers, Vann.
Nigel Burden
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It appears that we now have the South African mutation in the SE of England, (BBC News), but indications are that the vaccines will have some effect on it.
Nigel.
Nigel.
Jonm
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As I understand it the current variant across most of Europe is different to the original from Wuhan. Then we have the more infectious/deadly UK variant and South African variant. There have been others. To me it seems it can mutate plenty quickly enough to make itself more dangerous.
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| Countries | People vaccinated | Total population | Percentage |
| Gibraltar | 12,866 | 34,571 | 37.22% |
| Israel | 3,006,633 | 8,712,000 | 34.51% |
| The United Arab Emirates | 3,084,162 | 9,400,000 | 32.81% |
| The Seychelles | 30,861 | 95,843 | 32.20% |
| Samoa | 8,926 | 55,465 | 16.09% |
| The United-Kingdom | 8,977,329 | 66,650,000 | 13.47% |
| Bahrein | 170,433 | 1,493,000 | 11.42% |
| The United-States of America | 25,201,143 | 327,200,000 | 7.70% |
| Isle of Man | 6,192 | 84,287 | 7.35% |
| Marshall Islands | 3,763 | 58,413 | 6.44% |
| Serbia | 437,380 | 7,022,000 | 6.23% |
| Malta | 22,853 | 493,559 | 4.63% |
| Bermuda | 2,932 | 65,440 | 4.48% |
| Denmark | 186,762 | 5,603,000 | 3.33% |
| Switzerland | 262,081 | 8,570,000 | 3.06% |
| Ireland | 147,700 | 4,830,000 | 3.06% |
| Romania | 585,218 | 19,530,000 | 3.00% |
| Iceland | 10,702 | 364,260 | 2.94% |
| Finland | 144,520 | 5,513,000 | 2.62% |
| Portugal | 268,386 | 10,280,000 | 2.61% |
| Spain | 1,222,323 | 46,940,000 | 2.60% |
| Slovenia | 52,942 | 2,067,000 | 2.56% |
| Lituania | 71,323 | 2,794,000 | 2.55% |
| Poland | 958,453 | 37,970,000 | 2.52% |
| Canada | 937,338 | 37,590,000 | 2.49% |
| Turkey | 1,986,237 | 80,810,000 | 2.46% |
| Belgium | 270,740 | 11,460,000 | 2.36% |
| Slovakia | 124,774 | 5,450,000 | 2.29% |
| Sweden | 230,068 | 10,120,000 | 2.27% |
| Hungary | 222,005 | 9,773,000 | 2.27% |
| Germany | 1,855,457 | 82,790,000 | 2.24% |
| Italy | 1,340,824 | 60,480,000 | 2.22% |
| France | 1,479,909 | 66,990,000 | 2.21% |
| Czech Republic | 230,466 | 10,650,000 | 2.16% |
| Greece | 230,518 | 10,740,000 | 2.15% |
| Estonia | 27,900 | 1,328,000 | 2.10% |
| Austria | 185,291 | 8,822,000 | 2.10% |
| Singapore | 113,000 | 5,621,000 | 2.01% |
| Norway | 100,343 | 5,368,000 | 1.87% |
| Cyprus | 19,617 | 1,170,000 | 1.68% |
| Luxembourg | 9,890 | 602,005 | 1.64% |
| China | 22,767,000 | 1,386,000,000 | 1.64% |
| Croatia | 58,077 | 4,076,000 | 1.42% |
| Latvia | 23,400 | 1,920,000 | 1.22% |
| Saudi Arabia | 391,643 | 32,940,000 | 1.19% |
| The Netherlands | 176,286 | 17,180,000 | 1.03% |
| Brazil | 2,046,523 | 209,500,000 | 0.98% |
| Costa Rica | 45,707 | 4,906,000 | 0.93% |
| Russia | 1,000,000 | 144,500,000 | 0.69% |
| Argentina | 281,023 | 44,270,000 | 0.63% |
| Oman | 24,773 | 4,636,000 | 0.53% |
| Mexico | 630,820 | 129,200,000 | 0.49% |
| Bulgaria | 27,957 | 7,050,000 | 0.40% |
| Chile | 56,771 | 18,050,000 | 0.31% |
| India | 3,744,334 | 1,339,000,000 | 0.28% |
| Morocco | 90,000 | 35,740,000 | 0.25% |
| Indonesia | 493,133 | 264,000,000 | 0.19% |
| Sri Lanka | 37,825 | 21,440,000 | 0.18% |
| Panama | 6,420 | 4,099,000 | 0.16% |
| Koweit | 2,500 | 4,137,000 | 0.06% |
| Ecuador | 2,982 | 16,620,000 | 0.02% |
| Myanmar | 3,800 | 55,901,000 | 0.01% |
| Guinea | 25 | 12,720,000 | 0.00% |
| Algeria | 30 | 41,320,000 | 0.00% |
Owd Jockey
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After 4 consecutive days of volunteering at a local Vaccination, i'm taking a day off. I should say that the majority of citizens receiving the vaccine have been 'young' (under 30 ish). These are support workers in the NHS and the other myriad of other social support agencies groups across the country. We probably had just 1 or 2 over 80's coming through during the day. A new local Vaccination centre opens today at Telford United's football ground.
The news yesterday from Israel that the effects of their vaccine programme maybe beginning to show in infection rates, offers another ray of hope. I think and hope it may now only be a matter of weeks before we can begin diverting some of our vaccines through the Covax scheme to the poorer countries.
The Police occasionally drive through the car park, I suspect, in case there are any anti-vacc protestors. Apparently there was a small group that turned up outside back in December, but dispersed after a short while when the police turned up. All of the people that I speak to, reflect the opinions on this thread in being glad to receive the vacc to protect themselves and help end this terrible situation.
Anyway, there is a particularly 'punky' piece of spalted Alder sitting on the lathe with my name on it, that's just crying out to be turned into a small trinket box....we shall see.......take care, stay safe.
The news yesterday from Israel that the effects of their vaccine programme maybe beginning to show in infection rates, offers another ray of hope. I think and hope it may now only be a matter of weeks before we can begin diverting some of our vaccines through the Covax scheme to the poorer countries.
The Police occasionally drive through the car park, I suspect, in case there are any anti-vacc protestors. Apparently there was a small group that turned up outside back in December, but dispersed after a short while when the police turned up. All of the people that I speak to, reflect the opinions on this thread in being glad to receive the vacc to protect themselves and help end this terrible situation.
Anyway, there is a particularly 'punky' piece of spalted Alder sitting on the lathe with my name on it, that's just crying out to be turned into a small trinket box....we shall see.......take care, stay safe.
Jonm
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Apparently the president is in Germany being treated for Covid related illness. They have just started the vaccination programme.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/topics/cp7r8vglgyet/algeria
Personally I agree with you that they may be buying for future winter jabs, we don't know if they are needed, we don't know the longevity of immune response (although evidence is building) but if they were to be needed and no future plans had been put in place plenty of us would be criticizing from the perspective of hindsight.
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