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The west will get a wave of refugees.
and then the populist right in Europe like Farage will be screaming about refugees

odd how Farage is a massive Putin fan..........Putin uses refugees as a weapon to attack Europe, Farage uses refugees as a way to drive up hate and division

right wingers are so easily played
 
Putin will tickle Trumps ego and play him like a fiddle

Trump will force Ukraine to surrender loads of land, the way will stop and Putin will then spend a couple of years rebuilding his military and then he will re start the war conquering the rest of Ukraine and expanding into transnistria, Moldova and potentially across Lithuania to join Kaliningrad

Putin is a brutal Imperialist dictator, Trump has zero understanding of geo politics, he will get played
I can well imagine Trump saying "why should I care? Why should I waste US dollars on this? We dealt with the USSR before and can do so again. Ukraine is a money pit and not America's problem. Let the EU deal with it - it's on their doorstep."

Many US citizens would not be able to identify Ukraine on a map.
 
My prediction:

Ukraine there will be ceasefire along current front lines. Trump will tell the world how wonderful he is to stop the war etc etc

Putin will rearm and regroup. Ukraine will demobilize.

"Special Military Operation" number 2 will then take the rest of Ukraine and bring it back into a greater Russia which is what Putin desires.

The west will get a wave of refugees.

Please don't say Putin will honour a ceasefire this time - he has already ignored two treaties on Ukraine.
Why would Ukraine demobilize? It would be madness. More likely that both sides would take the opportunity to secure borders and increase the strength of their defensive and offensive capabilities. Ukraine might even get membership of NATO which would further secure their position.
 
What are your thoughts on the previous Trump administration that saw numerous members of his family given high profile jobs. Something that looks likely to happen again, along with random 'celebrities'.
Trump intends on sacking federal workers and replacing them with sycophants

its a Project 2025 policy....that thing which Trump said he had nothing to do with

oh and get rid of all union rights

Ordinary working people of America just voted to make themselves worse off

and then theres the American citizens who are immigrants............they might see their citizenship revoked and deported




Project 2025 Seeks to Dismantle Agencies, Terminate Up To 1 Million Federal Workers​

July 15, 2024​







Categories: The Insider
What could happen to our government and the federal workforce in 2025? A group of conservative organizations have a plan, and it’s not good for federal employees.
The plan is detailed in a blueprint called Project 2025, organized by the far-right Heritage Foundation, and backed by over 100 conservative organizations.
The plan promises a takeover of our country’s system of checks and balances in order to “dismantle the administrative state” – the operations of federal agencies and programs according to current law and regulation, including many of the laws and regulations that govern federal employment.
“Project 2025 will take away freedoms and rights from every American, will hurt the middle class and working families, and is a threat to our democracy,” said AFGE President Everett Kelley. “It’s a takeover of our federal government in a manner that is not loyal to the Constitution and the law, has no interest in listening to the people, and will force employees to take orders, legal or not, or be terminated.”
“If all of their recommendations were implemented, it wouldn’t just eviscerate our statutory collective bargaining rights and pay system but undo the basics of the Pendleton Act of 1883 which replaced a corrupt spoils system with the apolitical, merit-based system we have today,” said AFGE Public Policy Director Jacque Simon.
Here are the highlights – or rather lowlights – of Project 2025 to help you understand how these plans would undermine national security, destroy democracy, and take away our rights:
  1. Eliminate up to a million federal jobs
Because of the proposed deep budget cuts, elimination and privatization of agencies and programs, hiring freezes, caps on the number of personnel, and other anti-government policies, some have estimated that there would be a loss of up to a million federal jobs if Project 2025 is implemented.
  1. Declare public unions illegal and take away union rights
Seeking to end collective bargaining for public-sector workers, they would encourage Congress to “consider whether public-sector unions are appropriate in the first place.”
In the meantime, hundreds of thousands of employees working for TSA, DOJ, USCIS, and FEMA would have their union rights stripped away by executive action on national security grounds. For other agencies that still have contracts in place, they would reinstate Trump’s executive orders busting unions and directing agencies to renegotiate contracts to obtain the strongest possible management rights.
They would reinstate Schedule F, which seeks to reclassify any career federal employee whose job is in any way connected to federal policy. This new classification politicizes the civil service, allowing the administration to hire and fire for political reasons. More than 500,000 employees could be affected and lose their work protections as they intend to use authority that’s already in the law to target jobs they say are “of a confidential, policy-determining, policymaking or policy-advocating character”. There are 508,000 Grade 13-15 jobs in the federal government, and the number they will convert is unknown.
  1. Gut federal workers’ pay and benefits
They would replace the General Schedule and Wage Grade systems with a pay system that would decide raises based on occupation and how well employees carry out orders, whether legal or not. Describing federal retirement programs as overly generous, they would reduce retirement benefits to match “the market”, noting that half of private sector firms do not offer any retirement benefits. They also want to cut Social Security benefits by raising the retirement age.
  1. Make it easier to discriminate against people of color, women, and LGBTQIA+ people
They would restore either IQ tests or aptitude tests or both as requirements for federal hiring, despite the fact those tests have been found to be discriminatory. They identify the absence of these tests as the “root cause” of the poor performance of federal employees generally and say no merit system can exist without these tests.
They also propose abolishing so-called “disparate impact” – adverse impact of a facially neutral requirement or process – as grounds for challenging the legitimacy of the new civil service exams.
They would prohibit DEI (diversity, equity, and inclusion) efforts in most agencies including VA and at the Department of Labor. They would end data collection that showed differences by race and ethnicity and rescind regulations prohibiting discrimination based on sexual orientation and gender identity. They would also use the Department of Justice to police federal hiring government-wide to ensure that race, religion, and sex are not considered.
  1. Dismantle and privatize federal agencies
Under Project 2025, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) would be eliminated, and the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) would be privatized. DHS and TSA were created in response to the 9/11 terrorist attacks to coordinate our national security efforts, facilitate intelligence sharing, and prevent another terrorist attack. Both agencies have done an amazing job protecting our homeland. Bringing our country back to the pre-9/11 era is not only irresponsible but also puts all of us at risk.
The Department of Education would be eliminated and oversight of education and federal funding for education will be handed over to the states. Also being gutted are regulations prohibiting sex-based discrimination in schools and discrimination based on gender identity and sexual orientation.
The Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) would be eliminated and moved to the Department of Interior or the Department of Transportation if combined with the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA). The costs of disaster preparedness and response would be shifted to states and local governments.
The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA)’s many regional labs and entire offices of enforcement and compliance and scientific integrity and risk information would be eliminated. This will endanger public health by giving corporations and big businesses a greenlight to pollute the air we breathe, the water we drink, and the food we eat.
The Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) is to “privatize as much as possible” and close many hospitals and clinics. This will hurt veterans who rely on the VA’s expertise on illnesses unique to veterans. Veterans will also be talking to robots or chat bots instead of a live person when much of the Veterans Benefits Administration is automated.
The Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) would be taken apart and send much of its work to states and other agencies – bad news for low income and working-class families who rely on its meagre assistance.
The Department of Justice (DOJ) would lose its independence and be under control of the President. They believe that DOJ decisions should “always be consistent with the President’s policy agenda and the rule of law.”
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) would be drastically reduced and split into two entities: one gathering scientific data and one making public health recommendations and policies. Breaking up the CDC could hinder its ability to prevent and mitigate an outbreak. The CDC would also privatize all test development and laboratory functions and focus on providing guidance in these areas instead of “competing with the private sector.” They would move CDC’s data infrastructure and management to a public-private partnership, causing the government to lose ownership and control of the data.
 
I can well imagine Trump saying "why should I care? Why should I waste US dollars on this? We dealt with the USSR before and can do so again. Ukraine is a money pit and not America's problem. Let the EU deal with it - it's on their doorstep."

Many US citizens would not be able to identify Ukraine on a map.
thats been the MAGA line for ages, seems like its your line too

its hilarious that the Republican party has been turned into a party of Putin sympathisers


Is that the same Trump whose business was effectively rescued from bankruptcy by Russian money? A= yes
 
Trump intends on sacking federal workers and replacing them with sycophants?

Starmer appointed two Party apparatchiks to civil service jobs every day for the first 100 days - there must be something in the air.
It's a slightly different scale. What is planned by Project 2025 isn't conjecture or speculation; they literally have it laid out in their own documents. Exactly how much of it Trump will implement is anyone's guess, but anything more than zero would be pretty unpleasant.
 
Trump intends on sacking federal workers and replacing them with sycophants?

Starmer appointed two Party apparatchiks to civil service jobs every day for the first 100 days - there must be something in the air.
:ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

oh come on Phil, are you for real

the stench of false equivalence of overwhelming
 
Trump intends on sacking federal workers and replacing them with sycophants

its a Project 2025 policy....that thing which Trump said he had nothing to do with

oh and get rid of all union rights

Ordinary working people of America just voted to make themselves worse off

and then theres the American citizens who are immigrants............they might see their citizenship revoked and deported




Project 2025 Seeks to Dismantle Agencies, Terminate Up To 1 Million Federal Workers​

July 15, 2024​







Categories: The Insider
What could happen to our government and the federal workforce in 2025? A group of conservative organizations have a plan, and it’s not good for federal employees.
The plan is detailed in a blueprint called Project 2025, organized by the far-right Heritage Foundation, and backed by over 100 conservative organizations.
The plan promises a takeover of our country’s system of checks and balances in order to “dismantle the administrative state” – the operations of federal agencies and programs according to current law and regulation, including many of the laws and regulations that govern federal employment.
“Project 2025 will take away freedoms and rights from every American, will hurt the middle class and working families, and is a threat to our democracy,” said AFGE President Everett Kelley. “It’s a takeover of our federal government in a manner that is not loyal to the Constitution and the law, has no interest in listening to the people, and will force employees to take orders, legal or not, or be terminated.”
“If all of their recommendations were implemented, it wouldn’t just eviscerate our statutory collective bargaining rights and pay system but undo the basics of the Pendleton Act of 1883 which replaced a corrupt spoils system with the apolitical, merit-based system we have today,” said AFGE Public Policy Director Jacque Simon.
Here are the highlights – or rather lowlights – of Project 2025 to help you understand how these plans would undermine national security, destroy democracy, and take away our rights:
  1. Eliminate up to a million federal jobs
Because of the proposed deep budget cuts, elimination and privatization of agencies and programs, hiring freezes, caps on the number of personnel, and other anti-government policies, some have estimated that there would be a loss of up to a million federal jobs if Project 2025 is implemented.
  1. Declare public unions illegal and take away union rights
Seeking to end collective bargaining for public-sector workers, they would encourage Congress to “consider whether public-sector unions are appropriate in the first place.”
In the meantime, hundreds of thousands of employees working for TSA, DOJ, USCIS, and FEMA would have their union rights stripped away by executive action on national security grounds. For other agencies that still have contracts in place, they would reinstate Trump’s executive orders busting unions and directing agencies to renegotiate contracts to obtain the strongest possible management rights.
They would reinstate Schedule F, which seeks to reclassify any career federal employee whose job is in any way connected to federal policy. This new classification politicizes the civil service, allowing the administration to hire and fire for political reasons. More than 500,000 employees could be affected and lose their work protections as they intend to use authority that’s already in the law to target jobs they say are “of a confidential, policy-determining, policymaking or policy-advocating character”. There are 508,000 Grade 13-15 jobs in the federal government, and the number they will convert is unknown.
  1. Gut federal workers’ pay and benefits
They would replace the General Schedule and Wage Grade systems with a pay system that would decide raises based on occupation and how well employees carry out orders, whether legal or not. Describing federal retirement programs as overly generous, they would reduce retirement benefits to match “the market”, noting that half of private sector firms do not offer any retirement benefits. They also want to cut Social Security benefits by raising the retirement age.
  1. Make it easier to discriminate against people of color, women, and LGBTQIA+ people
They would restore either IQ tests or aptitude tests or both as requirements for federal hiring, despite the fact those tests have been found to be discriminatory. They identify the absence of these tests as the “root cause” of the poor performance of federal employees generally and say no merit system can exist without these tests.
They also propose abolishing so-called “disparate impact” – adverse impact of a facially neutral requirement or process – as grounds for challenging the legitimacy of the new civil service exams.
They would prohibit DEI (diversity, equity, and inclusion) efforts in most agencies including VA and at the Department of Labor. They would end data collection that showed differences by race and ethnicity and rescind regulations prohibiting discrimination based on sexual orientation and gender identity. They would also use the Department of Justice to police federal hiring government-wide to ensure that race, religion, and sex are not considered.
  1. Dismantle and privatize federal agencies
Under Project 2025, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) would be eliminated, and the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) would be privatized. DHS and TSA were created in response to the 9/11 terrorist attacks to coordinate our national security efforts, facilitate intelligence sharing, and prevent another terrorist attack. Both agencies have done an amazing job protecting our homeland. Bringing our country back to the pre-9/11 era is not only irresponsible but also puts all of us at risk.
The Department of Education would be eliminated and oversight of education and federal funding for education will be handed over to the states. Also being gutted are regulations prohibiting sex-based discrimination in schools and discrimination based on gender identity and sexual orientation.
The Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) would be eliminated and moved to the Department of Interior or the Department of Transportation if combined with the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA). The costs of disaster preparedness and response would be shifted to states and local governments.
The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA)’s many regional labs and entire offices of enforcement and compliance and scientific integrity and risk information would be eliminated. This will endanger public health by giving corporations and big businesses a greenlight to pollute the air we breathe, the water we drink, and the food we eat.
The Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) is to “privatize as much as possible” and close many hospitals and clinics. This will hurt veterans who rely on the VA’s expertise on illnesses unique to veterans. Veterans will also be talking to robots or chat bots instead of a live person when much of the Veterans Benefits Administration is automated.
The Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) would be taken apart and send much of its work to states and other agencies – bad news for low income and working-class families who rely on its meagre assistance.
The Department of Justice (DOJ) would lose its independence and be under control of the President. They believe that DOJ decisions should “always be consistent with the President’s policy agenda and the rule of law.”
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) would be drastically reduced and split into two entities: one gathering scientific data and one making public health recommendations and policies. Breaking up the CDC could hinder its ability to prevent and mitigate an outbreak. The CDC would also privatize all test development and laboratory functions and focus on providing guidance in these areas instead of “competing with the private sector.” They would move CDC’s data infrastructure and management to a public-private partnership, causing the government to lose ownership and control of the data.
He'll no doubt sanction the burning of puppies and children of the left by putting them in boiling oil too.
 

Nigel Farage: Vladimir Putin is the world leader I most admire​


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...s-the-world-leader-i-most-admire-9224781.html


I wonder did Putin get involved with the brexit campaign...........oh thats right, he did

Mr Farage was asked by GQ magazine’s new interviewer Alastair Campbell, Tony Blair’s former spin chief, which world leader he most admired. “As an operator, but not as a human being, I would say Putin,” he replied. “The way he played the whole Syria thing. Brilliant. Not that I approve of him politically. How many journalists in jail now?”
There are two things to note here, one is that this appears in the Independent, I don't think that paper likes old Nigel very much. The other is that it was Alistair Campbell doing the reporting, he is a nasty piece of work and it's not surprising that he 'spins' things how he wants things to be perceived, let's see the actual interview if it's available.
 
...and all of this because Trump had the audacity to apply for the position of president and WIN the presidency! You couldn't make it up. All this huffing and puffing over what?
 
thats been the MAGA line for ages, seems like its your line too

its hilarious that the Republican party has been turned into a party of Putin sympathisers


Is that the same Trump whose business was effectively rescued from bankruptcy by Russian money? A= yes
Why does it seem like that? I have expressed no opinion so this is just in your febrile imagination.

It's pointless harking back to previous Trump material. History is fixed and now everyone has to deal with what is coming tomorrow. So far the west has poured money and (somewhat obsolete) weaponry into Ukraine to little avail. This can't go on so there does need to be some pragmatic solution. Arguably it's of far more importance to countries that border Russia than it is to the US. The UK is of limited relevance now as our armed forces are hopelessly depleted, the Navy is barely operational.

Luckily we have John Healey in charge of defence, as he has lots of military experience.....what with having always been a career politician holding numerous largely irrelevant low profile posts in opposition that were unrelated to defence, the armed forces or anything pertinent to what he is doing now. Couldn't be in better hands.
 
Trump intends on sacking federal workers and replacing them with sycophants

its a Project 2025 policy....that thing which Trump said he had nothing to do with

oh and get rid of all union rights

Ordinary working people of America just voted to make themselves worse off

and then theres the American citizens who are immigrants............they might see their citizenship revoked and deported




Project 2025 Seeks to Dismantle Agencies, Terminate Up To 1 Million Federal Workers​

July 15, 2024​







Categories: The Insider
What could happen to our government and the federal workforce in 2025? A group of conservative organizations have a plan, and it’s not good for federal employees.
The plan is detailed in a blueprint called Project 2025, organized by the far-right Heritage Foundation, and backed by over 100 conservative organizations.
The plan promises a takeover of our country’s system of checks and balances in order to “dismantle the administrative state” – the operations of federal agencies and programs according to current law and regulation, including many of the laws and regulations that govern federal employment.
“Project 2025 will take away freedoms and rights from every American, will hurt the middle class and working families, and is a threat to our democracy,” said AFGE President Everett Kelley. “It’s a takeover of our federal government in a manner that is not loyal to the Constitution and the law, has no interest in listening to the people, and will force employees to take orders, legal or not, or be terminated.”
“If all of their recommendations were implemented, it wouldn’t just eviscerate our statutory collective bargaining rights and pay system but undo the basics of the Pendleton Act of 1883 which replaced a corrupt spoils system with the apolitical, merit-based system we have today,” said AFGE Public Policy Director Jacque Simon.
Here are the highlights – or rather lowlights – of Project 2025 to help you understand how these plans would undermine national security, destroy democracy, and take away our rights:
  1. Eliminate up to a million federal jobs
Because of the proposed deep budget cuts, elimination and privatization of agencies and programs, hiring freezes, caps on the number of personnel, and other anti-government policies, some have estimated that there would be a loss of up to a million federal jobs if Project 2025 is implemented.
  1. Declare public unions illegal and take away union rights
Seeking to end collective bargaining for public-sector workers, they would encourage Congress to “consider whether public-sector unions are appropriate in the first place.”
In the meantime, hundreds of thousands of employees working for TSA, DOJ, USCIS, and FEMA would have their union rights stripped away by executive action on national security grounds. For other agencies that still have contracts in place, they would reinstate Trump’s executive orders busting unions and directing agencies to renegotiate contracts to obtain the strongest possible management rights.
They would reinstate Schedule F, which seeks to reclassify any career federal employee whose job is in any way connected to federal policy. This new classification politicizes the civil service, allowing the administration to hire and fire for political reasons. More than 500,000 employees could be affected and lose their work protections as they intend to use authority that’s already in the law to target jobs they say are “of a confidential, policy-determining, policymaking or policy-advocating character”. There are 508,000 Grade 13-15 jobs in the federal government, and the number they will convert is unknown.
  1. Gut federal workers’ pay and benefits
They would replace the General Schedule and Wage Grade systems with a pay system that would decide raises based on occupation and how well employees carry out orders, whether legal or not. Describing federal retirement programs as overly generous, they would reduce retirement benefits to match “the market”, noting that half of private sector firms do not offer any retirement benefits. They also want to cut Social Security benefits by raising the retirement age.
  1. Make it easier to discriminate against people of color, women, and LGBTQIA+ people
They would restore either IQ tests or aptitude tests or both as requirements for federal hiring, despite the fact those tests have been found to be discriminatory. They identify the absence of these tests as the “root cause” of the poor performance of federal employees generally and say no merit system can exist without these tests.
They also propose abolishing so-called “disparate impact” – adverse impact of a facially neutral requirement or process – as grounds for challenging the legitimacy of the new civil service exams.
They would prohibit DEI (diversity, equity, and inclusion) efforts in most agencies including VA and at the Department of Labor. They would end data collection that showed differences by race and ethnicity and rescind regulations prohibiting discrimination based on sexual orientation and gender identity. They would also use the Department of Justice to police federal hiring government-wide to ensure that race, religion, and sex are not considered.
  1. Dismantle and privatize federal agencies
Under Project 2025, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) would be eliminated, and the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) would be privatized. DHS and TSA were created in response to the 9/11 terrorist attacks to coordinate our national security efforts, facilitate intelligence sharing, and prevent another terrorist attack. Both agencies have done an amazing job protecting our homeland. Bringing our country back to the pre-9/11 era is not only irresponsible but also puts all of us at risk.
The Department of Education would be eliminated and oversight of education and federal funding for education will be handed over to the states. Also being gutted are regulations prohibiting sex-based discrimination in schools and discrimination based on gender identity and sexual orientation.
The Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) would be eliminated and moved to the Department of Interior or the Department of Transportation if combined with the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA). The costs of disaster preparedness and response would be shifted to states and local governments.
The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA)’s many regional labs and entire offices of enforcement and compliance and scientific integrity and risk information would be eliminated. This will endanger public health by giving corporations and big businesses a greenlight to pollute the air we breathe, the water we drink, and the food we eat.
The Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) is to “privatize as much as possible” and close many hospitals and clinics. This will hurt veterans who rely on the VA’s expertise on illnesses unique to veterans. Veterans will also be talking to robots or chat bots instead of a live person when much of the Veterans Benefits Administration is automated.
The Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) would be taken apart and send much of its work to states and other agencies – bad news for low income and working-class families who rely on its meagre assistance.
The Department of Justice (DOJ) would lose its independence and be under control of the President. They believe that DOJ decisions should “always be consistent with the President’s policy agenda and the rule of law.”
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) would be drastically reduced and split into two entities: one gathering scientific data and one making public health recommendations and policies. Breaking up the CDC could hinder its ability to prevent and mitigate an outbreak. The CDC would also privatize all test development and laboratory functions and focus on providing guidance in these areas instead of “competing with the private sector.” They would move CDC’s data infrastructure and management to a public-private partnership, causing the government to lose ownership and control of the data.
Well, I would like to see the reasoning for all this, context is always important. I do agree with the fourth point though although the wording is typically 'progressive liberal'. This isn't about enabling discrimination of the alphabet people, it is about stopping the woke positive discrimination that places unqualified people in positions purely because they present with certain characteristics.
 
ordinary working Americans voted against their best interests.




https://x.com/bennyjohnson/status/1854082770592526445




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I dislike it when anyone is held back due to some personal characteristic such as ethnicity, but I also dislike it when someone is given a leg up for possessing those characteristics over the heads of other more qualified people. She flunked out of the presidential nominations in the first rounds and Biden said that his VP would be either from an ethnic minority and/or be the opposite sex. That's what he got. There's a reason people say DEI stands for 'Didn't Earn It' and in this case it shows and I am not saying I dislike her for it, I dislike the practice and the result in a lot of cases is sub-par performances which is exactly what happened with her campaign. If they'd selected based on merit, then I expect Trump would be instructing his solicitors right now.

I think this is a discussion based on something that couldn't really be avoided. The legal (typical US litigious mindset) situation, as I understand it, was that the funding for Biden's (Biden/Harris) campaign could NOT be legitimately transferred to another candidate. When Biden agreed to stand down it was too late to start that funding from scratch, so the only reasonable option was to appoint Harris - since Harris was already explicitly on the funding ticket, right there in black and white (Biden/Harris) the gathered funds would be legitimate to continue to draw. This was obviously far from an ideal situation, but the Democrats had to weigh up the pros and cons of:

Sticking with Biden (legally safe, but knowing that this was highly likely to deliver defeat);
Transferring to Harris (risky but better bet than Biden, and best to avoid legal challenge);
Appointing a new nominee and transfer funding (risky - time-consuming, with big chance of falling foul of legal challenge);
Appointing a new nominee and starting with a zero balance sheet and fund from scratch (best chance of securing the most ideal candidate, and request donors to transfer their donations - but the legalities of that were unclear at the time and probably highly challengeable).

Of the above 4 options, each having significant downsides and legal implications, the Harris option was selected. And it might've worked except for those pesky voters who care far less about the fact that Trump is an adjudicated rapist, a multiple felon, known liar(*) and instigator of a violent attempted coup... and care more about the fact that the lies (which they know to be lies) actually appeal to them.

(*) Trump complained that FOX would not repeat his lies on air this time around - but that was because FOX were fined almost $800million dollars for transmitting Trumps lies last time, so were clearly not so inclined to fall foul of this repeating of known lies this time around.
 

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