US Election November 5th

[Jacob]

I am not here to do your research for you. It is a fact that there are many right wing groups who are trying to foment a civil war, and some republicans have openly called for one if Trump loses.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/oct/30/trump-threats-election-enemy-within

 

[Blackswanwood]

You just have to look no further than the behaviour of the Democratic Party and its supporters following Trump's win in the presidential election to see what a corrupt lot they were and unless there have been a huge changes then they still are.
Sorry but I don't need to go further than that...that's enough as far as I'm concerned.

As for all the labels that left wingers on here throw at Trump, I'll listen when they acknowledge that the Biden dynasty are also arguably a corrupt bunch of crooks but I don't hear those same people asking why isn't Joe Biden's druggy son in jail?
Sorry but the left wing arguments on here are mostly nonsense.

I’ve looked and supplied details of how they supported a smooth transition of power. If just because you have some unspecified recollection of something happening is as far as you need go you are unlikely to persuade anyone that there is anything to it.

Not sure why you’ve raised labels being thrown at Trump. If it’s an attempt to answer my point about you criticising the Democrats for not accepting him as their president while you do the same about Starmer it’s just more whataboutery.

 

[Jacob]

There are sustained attempts to skew the betting odds, like the poll averages, because the appearance of momentum has a political value.

Triggering "the stupidity of the herd", as @mudman suggested earlier.

 

[TRITON]

If Trump loses, I shall enjoy the petulant man child tantrums

I think this is why the likes of the daily heil, gb news etc over here are keen on trump whining, sorry...Winning.
It's nothing to do whether he would make a good president, and more to do with he's such a blockhead and prone to tantrums, that they can get some clickbait articles out of it.

I also hope he loses, then we'll eventually see the likes of musk, trying desperately attempting to undo the damage to his reputation by supporting the orange clown in the first place.

 

[ey_tony]

Because I don’t agree with him on a lot of things. Thinking it’s okay to grab women by their genitalia is perhaps the start of it.

I've just read the transcript of that taped convo... Have you any idea how Gropey Joe came by his nickname?

 

[Blackswanwood]

I've just read the transcript of that taped convo... Have you any idea how Gropey Joe came by his nickname?

I’ve never heard the name Gropey Joe but it’s a bit more whataboutery. Joe Biden isn’t up for election.

 

[ey_tony]

I’ve looked and supplied details of how they supported a smooth transition of power. If just because you have some unspecified recollection of something happening is as far as you need go you are unlikely to persuade anyone that there is anything to it.

Not sure why you’ve raised labels being thrown at Trump. If it’s an attempt to answer my point about you criticising the Democrats for not accepting him as their president while you do the same about Starmer it’s just more whataboutery.

You're kidding aren't you? Supported a smooth transition my backside. That has to be the largest understatement I've every read!
Sorry but I'm not wasting any more time on this as you're clearly suffering from a severe bout of rectal verbosity ...bye!

 

[Agent_zed]

You're kidding aren't you? Supported a smooth transition my backside. That has to be the largest understatement I've every read!
Sorry but I'm not wasting any more time on this as you're clearly suffering from a severe bout of rectal verbosity ...bye!

wait you haven't given me any examples for the democrat's disgusting behaviour....

Perhaps you should listen to the man himself

 

[Blackswanwood]

You're kidding aren't you? Supported a smooth transition my backside. That has to be the largest understatement I've every read!
Sorry but I'm not wasting any more time on this as you're clearly suffering from a severe bout of rectal verbosity ...bye!

I’m not kidding. It’s all set out in the news article I provided.

Very happy to reconsider my point of view if you have any alternative reports … or could it be that there aren’t any?

 

[ey_tony]

I’m not kidding. It’s all set out in the news article I provided.

Very happy to reconsider my point of view if you have any alternative reports … or could it be that there aren’t any?

This is what I was referring to earlier about biased and unbiased news reporting. Look at the content of the video and news source of the following news report...
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/11/11/protests-against-donald-trumps-win-turn-violent

 

[Jacob]

This is what I was referring to earlier about biased and unbiased news reporting. Look at the content of the video and news source of the following news report...
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/11/11/protests-against-donald-trumps-win-turn-violent

Are you saying that this is biased or unbiased?
Looks fairly straight to me. Al Jazeera has to be fairly honest to avoid accusations of bias, as it is not a pro Israeli propaganda rag.
What point are you trying to make?

 

[Hypnotic Chimera]

I try to make my judgements and arguments based on fact and neutrality rather than tribalism or prejudice but I agree it can be difficult to argue a point without some inherent bias.
I'm not American and Trump or whoever wins the presidency will not be my president therefore I have no inherent voting bias as such but I can observe from an outsider's perspective of what is and has been happening in the USA and make a judgement based on what I've witnessed and I draw the same parallels with the Democrat's behaviour after Trumps presidential win and the behaviour of that of those who voted to remain in the 2016 referendum.

Neither group were willing to accept the other side's victory and continually fermented dissent and therefore I see the both groups as ant-democratic by failing to accept the result of a democratic vote.

It's over 8 years since the referendum but for many they will still not accept the results of the referendum...I'd argue they are what is wrong with the UK and I suspect the same applies to the USA.
When the losing side refuses to accept the result of a free and fair referendum/election then it indicates that those people do not believe in true democracy and merely pay lip service to it.
Other's may see it differently but before I voted in the referendum I was willing from the outset to accept the result of the referendum whatever the result.

Depends what your "interpretation" of "accepting the result of [Brexit]"?

If you interpret anyone who points out the reality of the significant disadvantages and negative consequences that it has brought (and that were correctly forecast prior to vote) as "not accepting", then your interpretation is incorrect. Personally, I have seen no evidence of people "not accepting" the referendum - not in the proper English language definition, anyway...

 

[ey_tony]

Are you saying that this is biased or unbiased?
Looks fairly straight to me. Al Jazeera has to be fairly honest to avoid accusations of bias, as it is not a pro Israeli propaganda rag.
What point are you trying to make?

Perhaps if you took the time to read the context of my post then you'd see I was pointing out the atrocious behaviour of the Democrats and its supporters immediately after Trump won the election and is yet another reason why I dislike left wing politics.
Al Jazeera is one news source I look to for unbiased news reporting where Western political matters are concerned and I posted the report to support my argument so to answer your question, I see Al Jazeera as an unbiased news source I could trust.

Although I strongly dislike left wing politics I can't say I'm a fan of right wing politics in fact I don't particularly like any of political parties on offer at the moment as they're all much the same each catering for their own supporter's prejudices.
Each to their own but I just find left wing politics and its followers full of bigotry, envy and entitlement which doesn't fit well with my approach to life.

 

[Jake]

As for Brexit; I've never heard of anyone not accepting the result of the vote. The issue is (was, and will always be) that the promises made were a fantasy, and continue to not exist.

And what the democratic consequences of it were. Is it something sacred to be set in aspic forever or can people change their minds. The focus of the Remain movement was public pressure for another democratic vote, not storming Parliament or anywhere else to try to lynch pro-Brexiters to stop it.