Tree ID x 2

[Noel]

Just a thought but could you google street view where this tree was before it blew/was chopped down and find a photo of it in full leaf?

A very good thought Doris : )
I had looked on SV a few days ago and couldn't get a view of the tree (dated 2016). This time started at the other end of the road and Google has updated part of the road (dated 2022) and we have this.
Thanks again Doris.

 

[Sgian Dubh]

A very good thought Doris : )
I had looked on SV a few days ago and couldn't get a view of the tree (dated 2016). This time started at the other end of the road and Google has updated part of the road (dated 2022) and we have this.
Thanks again Doris.

If that's the felled tree you're trying to identify it looks suspiciously elm like. I say that because the leaves look similar to beech but the leaf bases, as best I can tell from the fuzzy photo, seem to be asymmetrical which is characteristic of elm, see below, the image sourced from the Woodland Trust website. I could, of course, be very wrong. Slainte.

 

[accipiter]

If that's the felled tree you're trying to identify it looks suspiciously elm like. I say that because the leaves look similar to beech but the leaf bases, as best I can tell from the fuzzy photo, seem to be asymmetrical which is characteristic of elm, see below, the image sourced from the Woodland Trust website. I could, of course, be very wrong. Slainte.

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Or Hornbeam?... very similar shape to an elm - of which there are different ones of. I've a few in my bonsai trees but I'd have to try to find the photos: Wych, Field, Zelkova... etc.
These photos are of a copper beech (1st photo, lighter colour) and common or green beech (2nd, darker) although winter colours and a bit dried. Notice pointed leaf buds plus placement on the stem. ( @Noel )

 

[TomGW]

As I also do Bonsai I'd have said Beech for your 1st photo because of the grey/smooth looking bark... but I'm not seeing any leaves *still attached to the twiggy branches in the 2nd lot of photos uploaded* - beech tend to hold on to (some of) their leaves protecting the buds for the next season... plus the leaf buds are rather staggered going left and right/alternate - quite pronounced... and the bark on the trunks is rather 'thin' compared to something like oak. If that's unclear I'll see if I can take some photos of parts of my beech bonsai trees.

Also your second lot of photos show rougher bark on some... we're a mix of trees brought down - if storm damage? I'd be thinking some Ash based on those other photos. You'll probably not know for certain until you plank them - if your are thinking of doing that?

I'd very much like to learn about Bonsai and have a few pot grown oak and chestnut, now a few years old but still small.

 

[accipiter]

I'd very much like to learn about Bonsai and have a few pot grown oak and chestnut, now a few years old but still small.

Hi Tom
Probably the best things I can suggest is to do a Google search for the trees you've got in pots using 'oak as bonsai' and 'chestnut as bonsai' - from which you'll get a number of results to go through, as well as links to videos on YouTube. There's a YouTube channel by a guy under the name of Notion Bonsai in Ireland... but there are others.

You'll find that 'usually' chestnut aren't used for bonsai because of the leaf size - but, over time, leaf size will reduce but only marginally... Similar with Oak but there are some good ones out there.

Also do a search for 'bonsai clubs near me' or 'bonsai clubs in Northern Ireland' - that sort of thing. I came across this one, and they have some videos on YouTube: https://www.nibonsai.co.uk/

As well as that search for UKBA (United Kingdom Bonsai Association)... join it as it's FREE and you'll get newsletters giving updates as to what's happening in Bonsai. LOTS of videos on YouTube... I've found it the easiest way to 'learn' how to do the work needed because you can watch (see) it being done rather than trying to learn from a book with line drawings.

Plenty of groups also on Facebook... you can pm me if you want to know which to try