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Nice one Scrit
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Nice one Scrit
woodbloke
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I think I used a saw like this on a training course at Bournemouth some years ago :shock: :shock: ...doesn't take any prisoners :wink: - Rob
ByronBlack
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The blade is a bit small though! :twisted:
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nah- far too small!!!
And £13 way out of my budget :lol:
And £13 way out of my budget :lol:
Reminds me of a couple of years ago a guy working on a flat refurb a couple of doors from me asked if I would run some timber through my thicknesser. He had some 250 x 40mm(ish) stock that he wanted to use as stair treads but were too thick. I agreed, but he never showed up with the timber. When I saw him a few days later and asked if he still wanted the use of the thicknesser he said, in an awed voice, that he'd found someone with a table saw who let him resaw it: "...in one pass!"
Turning slightly ashen just at the memory he told me it was "the biggest bloody sawblade I've ever seen, I've never been so scared!"
Must have been something like that I suppose.
Nice one Scrit, when you taking delivery then?
Mark
Turning slightly ashen just at the memory he told me it was "the biggest bloody sawblade I've ever seen, I've never been so scared!"
Must have been something like that I suppose.
Nice one Scrit, when you taking delivery then?
Mark
Tarkin
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The last time I saw something with a blade that big, it was mounted on the back of a tractor, powered by the pto (over 100hp!). It belonged to a forrester who'd made it himself! He'd aquired the blade form a sawmill, it was someting like 40". Apparently someone had once had a heart attack while using it, and missed slicing himeslf in half by about 3"!!! :shock: :shock: :shock:
wrightclan
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The blade is bigger than the cast iron top of my Startrite!!! :shock: :shock: :shock:
My local joiner has just retired after 40 odd years. I have aquired one of these 32" ers, a 40" radial arm saw, a 20" planer thicknesser, a combined chain/chissel morticer and a 12" combi saw planer. All Wadkin. Managed to get them all for £900 which was good but I have still to get them out. The planer/thicknesser alone weights in at approx 2000kg. I have access to a forklift and a tractor with a flatbed trailer. If anyone has any advice on how best to move these beasties around I will greatfully take it on board.
The big saw scares me and I will probably be looking to sell it if anyone is interested.
Thanks
Mark
The big saw scares me and I will probably be looking to sell it if anyone is interested.
Thanks
Mark
DaveL
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Mark,
I would love to see some pictures of the kit you have bought.
I have a 10" AGS Wadkin, small compared to what you have, even that took some moving.
I would love to see some pictures of the kit you have bought.
I have a 10" AGS Wadkin, small compared to what you have, even that took some moving.
The P/T is probably a bit over 1500kg based on the 24in RM being 1750kg..... Still ruddy heavy, though not as bad as a 32in rip saw. As a point of comparison the Wadkin UX I currently use on my avatar weights in at a not insubstantial 1350kg but can be moved round the workshop with a prybar and judicious use of wooden blocks as fulcums......dexteria":2n9xkpc6 said:
The machine you'll really have the problems with is probably the MF (chain/chisel morticer) - they're tall and top heavy so you'll need to block it up onto a sturdy pallet then strap it down before moving it. Watch how you lift it - the chain grinders are really vulnerable (as they hand off the RH side as you look from the front) and you might be as well to unbolt it before shifting the machine
Above: Wadkin RM 24 x 9in planer/thicknesser (late model)
Below: Wadkin MF chain and chisel morticer - about 7ft high!
Failing having machine moving skates/turntable and a toe jack (HSS Lift and Shift?), if you can get a couple of pallet trucks, a wide 2 tonne, a narrow 1 tonne, some pallets, plywood blocks, 3 or 4 pry bars and a scaffolding bar cut down into 5 or 6 lengths of roller then you'll be part way there. A wagon with a 20 tonne HIAB helps, as well. Just make sure that you have properly rated webbing straps and don't pick anything up by the tables, especially the over and under. The motors hang out of the sides on a lot of the older equipment which makes it much more of a pain to move. Good luck!
I've recently bought a few rebuild jobs for the winter including:
A little Bursgreen MZ 16in chairmaker's bandsaw (pre-1957, so technically a Sagar) which will replace the Startrite I have for smaller work. This is a heavy little so-and-so, all cast-iron and an astounding 550kg! But it has a nifty little trick all of its's own:
Does that count as a gloat? :lol:
Scrit
Thanks for the advice. I will call HSS. Here are some pictures of the machines. Not sure if they are all Wadking as I said earlier but I was really only interested in the P/T and the radial arm. I think the P/T may be the bigger 24" If anyone is interested in the other machines feel free to make an offer .
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Hi dexteria
The P/T is actually a later Wadkin Bursgreen UO/S and looks like an 18 x 9in one to me - that makes it a 1960s or possibly even a 1970s machine and one of the last all cast-iron machines of its era. The radial arm is a Bursgreen BRA (built 1950s to 1970s in that form - an improcved copy of the American deWalt still manufactured by Original Saw Co), the rip saw looks like it could be a White (the crown guard is similar to that on the SK dimension saw). I don't know about the combi, but the converted flat belt drive indicates that it's almost certainly pre-WWII era, whilst the chain and chisel morticer is neither a Wadkin nor a Robinson SL/E, and doesn't look much like a White NJ either (both the handles were on the right with all three if those, all late 30s designs produced until the end of the industry), so possibly a Sagar because they used to make a chain and chisel morticer called the IZ2 in flat belt days which had left and right handles and I believe that they did build an electric drive machine similar to this with the motor low down at the back (called an IZ9?):
although your photo isn't too clear.
Of you are leaving the combi a couple of pallet trucks, pallets, blocks and bars will shift the rest. Don't forget to get some ratchet straps to tie down that chain and chisel though.
Scrit
The P/T is actually a later Wadkin Bursgreen UO/S and looks like an 18 x 9in one to me - that makes it a 1960s or possibly even a 1970s machine and one of the last all cast-iron machines of its era. The radial arm is a Bursgreen BRA (built 1950s to 1970s in that form - an improcved copy of the American deWalt still manufactured by Original Saw Co), the rip saw looks like it could be a White (the crown guard is similar to that on the SK dimension saw). I don't know about the combi, but the converted flat belt drive indicates that it's almost certainly pre-WWII era, whilst the chain and chisel morticer is neither a Wadkin nor a Robinson SL/E, and doesn't look much like a White NJ either (both the handles were on the right with all three if those, all late 30s designs produced until the end of the industry), so possibly a Sagar because they used to make a chain and chisel morticer called the IZ2 in flat belt days which had left and right handles and I believe that they did build an electric drive machine similar to this with the motor low down at the back (called an IZ9?):
although your photo isn't too clear.
Of you are leaving the combi a couple of pallet trucks, pallets, blocks and bars will shift the rest. Don't forget to get some ratchet straps to tie down that chain and chisel though.
Scrit
Nah! Mis-spent youf! I've run several workshops over the years so I've bought, sold and rebuilt a few machines. You just get to know the whats and where's Good lucjk with the move. If you were a bit nearer I'd come and give you a hand - how far are you from Dumferline? (due up there shortly....)dexteria":108cv1mb said:
Scrit
I'm about 50odd miles further north than Dunfermline but thanks for the offer anyway. I actually lived in Dunfermline for a while a few years back.
The farmer and his two sons (I live on a farm) are going to give me a hand and we can use their forklift etc although I think I will also hire the skates and jack from HSS.
Cheers
Mark
The farmer and his two sons (I live on a farm) are going to give me a hand and we can use their forklift etc although I think I will also hire the skates and jack from HSS.
Cheers
Mark
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