The Stealth Lathe

[cambournepete]

Not actually called that, obviously but this Magma Titan Black Line 400 was at Cressing Temple.

Wow!
It's like all the best bits of a Vicmarc, Oneway and VB rolled into one, all for a mere £6700.

 

[Alie Barnes]

Not actually called that, obviously but this Magma Titan Black Line 400 was at Cressing Temple.

Wow!
It's like all the best bits of a Vicmarc, Oneway and VB rolled into one, all for a mere £6700.

Oh dear i seem to have left my wallet at home!

Nice lathe though.

 

[wizer]

Could this be Blister's next lathe? only 6.5k :shock:

 

[Blister]

Could this be Blister's next lathe? only 6.5k :shock:

Not able to get to the show , as I was picking up my recently acquired table saw :lol:

And some " EXTRAS " :mrgreen: :tool:

Not too keen on the design , correct me if I am wrong but the leg sections look hollow ? :?

The motor is hanging out the back of the head stock , covered in shavings :?

I cant see the " VALUE " in this lathe at 6500 euros

so no it wont be on my shopping list

rather have a 2436 8)

or my as yet still not used VB :?

 

[Jenx]

I'm kinda in agreement with you there Allen .... It looks like a Oneway, and I'm not sure I can see where 6 1/2 Grand comes from there ... I'm sure its a fine machine & all ... but that much finer than a Vicmarc, Wivamac or a VB ? ...

Still, nice to see a different machine being posted, --
Cambourne - what did you think of it, seeing it first-hand ?

 

[CHJ]

Looks impressive from the front, and no doubt that the wide headstock gives good stable mainshaft support without undue bearing influenced vibration etc. but the open back design of the headstock in particular and to a lesser degree the tailpost is pathetic.

Guess they don't envision someone using this design in a shop mounted near a wall, would be a nightmare to cleanup after a session without good access all round.

The motor could certainly be distributing generated dust around the shop or packing it nicely in the headstock cavity with its cooling fan just as efficiently as the real budget machines.

 

[Doug B]

When i first arrived at the barns Mark Hancock was on this lathe. He said the designer came up with a prototype, then asked 10 pros their thoughts about it, took these thoughts on board & this lathe was the result.

I would never presume to be an expert on lathes, far from it, but it looked fantastic & the bowl in the picture started from a very out of true blank 18" x 18" approx & it didn`t trouble the lathe at all.

One final thought, after going on it Mark was heard to say " I want one now"

 

[CHJ]

...
I would never presume to be an expert on lathes, far from it, but it looked fantastic & the bowl in the picture started from a very out of true blank 18" x 18" approx & it didn`t trouble the lathe at all.
......"

That would no doubt be a function of the widely spaced headstock bearings and rigid headstock frame, a rear motor cover and suitably placed cooling ducts should not cause a production cost overrun on such a high end market positioned machine.

 

[cornucopia]

hmm it looks kinda strange to me-
i wonder what type of bearings it has fitted?

 

[CHJ]

hmm it looks kinda strange to me-
i wonder what type of bearings it has fitted?

Suspect Tapered Roller George, for the front at least, possibly plain ball or roller for rear to allow length float due to temperature variations.

Doubt very much that they have oil floating plain bearings, but very willing to be proved wrong, would not be too much to expect from something pitched at this price point.

 

[wizer]

I have to agree actually, despite it's size and colour (Stealth is a good name), it looked incomplete somehow. But it was certainly a substantial lathe. They'd left it on the pallet (probably for obvious reasons) which made it vibrate like crazy.

 

[CHJ]

Only as good as Google but I can't find any bearing details.

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Ergonomically correct Work: continuously with the rotatable and freely movable Headstock stand

She finally right for Workpiece. With the large Eccentric pretend you
the headstock tool - seconds and secure.

The zero position can be found easily and save it with a locking pin in the Precision-guided slide.

The motor is linear in of the wave, not a transfer of vibrations on wave and the workpiece.

Closed headstock, no injuries by rotating parts.

Very oversized, Shoulder maintenance warehouse ensure complete peace and quiet backlash and run.

Perforated 60 mm thick, massive wave, bore 15 mm. Spindle Thread
M33/DIN800, hardened therefore extremely robust and durable.
(If desired, others are Thread sizes up to M50 available).
Morse taper MT2 hardened to the insertion of Pushers and chuck.

Step Washer with poly-VRiemen, untersetzbar 3:1, ensures optimum power transmission while Security through clutch -- functional.

The extremely large Bearing distance of 360 mm (Titan 315) or 390 mm
(Titan 400) in conjunction with the torsion Steel casing makes absolutely
torsion, quiet Rotation. 315 mm or 400 mm center height.

This enables the workpiece -- by diameter and 780 mm above the bed. Thus, Also at these large Workpieces with the Tailstock support.
This brings more security while at work.
Save Cost and space because you do not Außendreheinrichtung need.
If this is not enough no problem, Dia esser to 2 m. at 90 ° twisted headstock feasible.
Belt replacement without elaborate shafts -- ausbau. Light motor adjustment, accessible Pulleys. Integrated 48-Step Part slice with
Color markings. Waves -- interlocksystem at 48 positions, wherever you want to
Milling, drilling and Schnit -- . zen The very compact Design allows Turning to the work pieces -- rückseite the food.

TITAN 315
Center height 315 mm
Center distance 830 mm
Motor 1.5 kW
optional 2.2 kW
Weight approx 320 kg
Best.Code
DB TITAN315
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We provide you with TITAN a machine with many Superlatives before.
Turning 30 years experience and extensive studies stuck in the new
Lathe series Magma Blackline TITAN.
The result is a new, future-proof and expandable Machine design,
uncompromisingly matched to today's needs of Hand turning.
The result is an honest Equivalent to the purchase price!

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[boysie39]

Thank you Chas, was their anything about the lathe on the site :?: :?: :lol: :lol: REgards Boysie

 

[cambournepete]

What did I think of it?
I want one.
It's got the swing of the big Oneway and Vicmarc, but with a swivelling head that slides anywhere on the bed, giving the bowl capacity of the VB.
I reckon it's the most complete lathe available, but then it should be for the price.
The tailstock assembly might look a bit open, but I could still barely lift it. If it was any more solid you'd need a crane to lift it.
I get the the point about the cover - I guess they could easily sort this if it's really a problem.
Chas just translated their brochure (obtainable in German from the link in my first post). I've asked to them to email a copy when it's been translated.
The Magma director there said the bearings were special, but his English was not good enough to explain.

 

[wizer]

I also liked their smaller lathes that were very simple and rock solid. you can tell with this company that they concentrate on quality parts rather than bells and whistles.

 

[CHJ]

I have had my son check over the site (he's fluent in German) and he can't find any technical details regarding bearings.

Info on heat treatment of headstock shaft etc. poly-vee belt drive, forward reverse capability etc. lack of transferred resonance from the motor, the value of the widely spaced bearings on stability, smooth running and strength of (over engineered) construction.

Will be interesting to see an english translation as several phrases used are difficult to relate to english turning technical terms.

 

[Mark Hancock]

One final thought, after going on it Mark was heard to say " I want one now"

Looking at getting one very soon \/

There should shortly be some videos on YouTube just showing how capable these lathes are.

 

[Bodrighy]

One final thought, after going on it Mark was heard to say " I want one now"

Looking at getting one very soon \/

There should shortly be some videos on YouTube just showing how capable these lathes are.

Either your sales and demos are doing well or you have a really nice bank manager :lol:

Pete

 

[Oakbear]

I wouldn't object to one if i won it in a raffle, but don't see what it has over a VB with all the trimmings? Am i missing something?