The final nail in the coffin of British youth culture

[MrTeroo]

Bashment = dancehall.
Trap is more EDM than hip hop. With drops.

Me thinks Mr Treoo is trying too hard to provoke a debate. Trolling as it used to be known, Or else is offering a demonstration of the old adage that the less you know the stronger your opinions.

Where there's a pot, there's always a kettle.

Your micro adjustments of my comparisons don't invalidate my point I'm afraid.

Genre / movement / period in British pop culture. Call the various phases what you will but they were The UK punching above its weight in the world of music.

No rose tinted glasses, just facts.

I'll be happy to agree to being myopic if you present me with a compelling case to the contrary.

No trolling here, this subject is close to my heart.

 

[skipdiver]

Nothing is new, neither is it particularly British. The New York Dolls are widely credited with inventing Punk and Glam Rock.

 

[DoctorWibble]

Like I said its all in the club and festival scene. And if you're too old for that you're never going to know. But that doesn't mean it isn't happening. If you were 19 you'd still be out there finding out for yourself instead of posting on woodwork forums

I'm way too old obvs so little point asking me. I hear the kids playlists in the car, like it, ask who it is and then five minutes later have completely forgotten.

As for Brits punching above their weight. Well, like football, that's easy when others have barely got off the ground. I think we're still doing it but loads of others are now too and national styles are vanishing.

 

[dzj]

"None of the significant musical genres were British. "

Perhaps not, but how bland would popular music of the 60s, 70s and 80s be without their contribution.

 

[JSW]

'Indie is just new wave without the new'

Love it, perfect description, little chuckle here at that one.

 

[DoctorWibble]

"None of the significant musical genres were British. "

Perhaps not, but how bland would popular music of the 60s, 70s and 80s be without their contribution.

There's some truth in that. British bands were good at taking crude ideas made elsewhere and doing them better. The Stones did cross over blues far better than the yanks. Cure, New Order and Human league did the early electronic thing better than Kraftwerk. The Pistols did punk with far more confidence and drama than the unlistenable NYDs, Undertones were a lot more fun than the Ramones. Faithless et al showed the world how to do electronic dance music. And of course the Beatles did famous better than anyone else. In fact I'd say they are and always will be the undisputed number one over rated band of all time.

But all the while much of the better music was corralled behind the racial divide in the US. They had on their doorstep all the ingredients for a Blumenthal tasting menu but instead insisted on cold mash potatoes day after day. But for that there wouldn't have been any "British invasion". We didn't care. If it was good we'd copy it and for a while that gave us an edge. And of course some of the biggest record labels in the world were British companies. That must've helped in an age when record companies were needed.

 

[MrTeroo]

Did I dream it or did you just compare The Cure to Kraftwerk?

You can't be serious?

And these biggest recod labels in the worls? You mean 4AD / Factory / Stiff / Junior Boys Own etc?

If you don't mind me asking, how old are you?

 

[Nelsun]

If you want to compare British punk efforts to anything outside the UK then I'd laugh out loud. Black Flag, Bad Brains, DRI, Minor Threat etc. wiped the floor with the pop efforts of the Pistols, Damned, Clash etc. The goth and Two Tone scenes were the last great British contributions IMHO.

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[Beau]

If you want to compare British punk efforts to anything outside the UK then I'd laugh out loud. Black Flag, Bad Brains, DRI, Minor Threat etc. wiped the floor with the pop efforts of the Pistols, Damned, Clash etc. The goth and Two Tone scenes were the last great British contributions IMHO.

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And thats whats so great about music. No two people hear it the same way

Loads of great artist in the past and plenty yet to come. Bring it on.

 

[DoctorWibble]

Most people think the music they liked about the time they lost their virginity was the bollocks and everything before or since was pants. Then they spend the next decade or two moaning about it. Its the most common pattern on threads such as this one. Some of us are past that stage! Others will moan till the day they die. But the youngsters don't mind: the last thing they want is for their music to be adopted by a bunch of old gits like you lot

 

[DoctorWibble]

Pineapples? Was that a machine edit or one of the mods? I certainly never mentioned fruit.