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Today is the 65th anniversary of D-Day - the beginning of the end of the war in Europe.
I don't know if anyone on this forum is related to anyone who served during the war, but I'd like to take this opportunity to say thank you to all the sevicemen and women who gave so much for our freedom.
We owe these people more than we'll ever truly know.
 
I heard a story on the radio news just now about an old fellow in poor health who made the journey from his home in the US. After touring a cemetery there, he passed away in his slep and went to join his buddies.

Thank you to all who gave.
 
It's hard for those of us who are not of that generation to understand the sacrifices made. SWMBO and I were talking over lunch about how difficult it is to comprehend the events of WW2.

Thanks to all.

Cheers

Karl
 
Karl":136y065n said:
It's hard for those of us who are not of that generation to understand the sacrifices made. SWMBO and I were talking over lunch about how difficult it is to comprehend the events of WW2.

Thanks to all.

Cheers

Karl

It's the ultimate sacrifice, however I find WW1 more difficult to comprehend
 
Well i look at the news and see 22 year old kids killed in Afganinstan for political reasons,cannot be right :(
 
My father was a Wellington bomber pilot in WWII. Hardly ever spoke about it, but I do have his logbooks, medals and some of the photos of bombs dropping on italy and the customary pics of him and his crew in front of the plane in the desert of North Africa from where he flew. Thankfully survived the war and died in 1980, but I always thought of him as a hero. There's precious little room in a Wimpy for 5 men.

It's a pity that most of our MPs are not fit to polish the boots of the veterans they seem to scorn so much.
 
I was a child during the war but I still remember the end of it and the homecomings that followed. The kids in my school who were terrified that dad was coming home, a father they had never known. The men who couldn't cope, the family break ups that followed.
Peace didn't come to many till years afterwards.
God bless them all!

Roy.
 
I've agonised all week end whether to make this post or not but finally decided to go ahead.
Many on this forum, like my own family see WW2 as history, which it is, but a history that was written in the blood of millions.
I would like to tell about one old soldier I knew.
Christened Robert, he was 'Jim' to all, and like most of the men who served that I knew he spoke little of his experiences, but over numerous pints I was able to fit his story together.
He was a keen motor cyclist in his teens, and some time after Dunkirk the Motor Cycle News printed a report from the War Dept, due to the loss of so many bikes during the evacuation anybody with a bike and a licence could join up as a Dispatch Rider using his own bike till the War Dept could replace it.
As a bonus all volunteers would be excused basic training and 'square bashing'.
The following morning, not yet 18 years of age, Jim signed up and spent the next few months thoroughly enjoying himself as he carried dispatches to all and sundry.
Till one day, as he passed over a hump backed bridge, he was faced with two lads riding push pikes round in circles in front of him.
The subsequent crash put him in hospital for months with a fractured skull, during which time the rest of his group were posted to the far east and were wiped out by the Japanese.
Jim was posted to India in 1941 and joined a Gurkha battalion preparing to invade Burma. The army commander was Bill Slim, and as the invasion meant crossing the Irrawaddy on rafts he ordered that only swimmers would cross.
Jim couldn't swim a stroke! But determined not to be left out he got one of his mates to teach him and crossed with Slim's HQ.
Over the remaining months of the war Jim fought his way south and ended to war guarding POWs in Rangoon.
He won no Field Marshall's Baton, was awarded no medals, finishing as a Sargent and grateful to be alive.
Along with most of his mates he voted for the Attlee government after the war on their promise to bring them home quickly, and was sickened by the betrayal that followed.
He told me that men in the middle east and far east then mutinied, I found it hard to believe, but he was correct, and as punishment they were left there, Jim finally returning home in 1947.
Soon after being demobbed he married the girl he left behind and settled into married life in a cold and damp 'prefab' just in time for the coldest winter of the century.
Jim was in his late forties when first met him, with a passion for gardening to that won him numerous cups and awards. Many of his compatriots in the midlands had fought in the far east and many of those I knew were left with a burning hatred of the Japanese, but not Jim. In fact in all the years that I knew him I only heard his voice raised in anger once.
WW2 wasn't the end of his battles, in his late 60s he was struck down with bowel cancer, which he fought with the same determination as in the war, and won.
In his 80s he again developed cancer, this time of the oesophagus, and he again showed the same courage and beat it.
But Jim lost that last battle that we all must lose, with the years, and passed away in his sleep a few days ago.
That man was my father-in-law and I am proud to have had him as a friend.

Roy.
 
Roy, you must be very proud of your father in law. Sorry to hear the sad news of his passing. It sounds like he will be greatly missed.
How many millions of other stories have gone untold?
I for one am grateful to you for sharing.
There's a verse in an Eric Bogle song that has haunted me since I first heard it....

And did you leave a wife or a sweetheart behind
In some loyal heart is your memory enshrined?
And, though you died back in 1916,
To that loyal heart are you forever 19?
Or are you a stranger without even a name,
Forever enshrined behind some glass pane,
In an old photograph, torn and tattered and stained,
And fading to yellow in a brown leather frame?

I'm glad your father in law went on to find happiness and, by the sounds of it, a fulfilling life.
How many ARE nameless faces in photographs?
It always saddens me when I see on Antiques Roadshow, or the likes, people selling off service medals awarded to their relatives.

All the best to you and yours Roy...
 
RILEY":101bcbos said:
There's a verse in an Eric Bogle song that has haunted me since I first heard it....

It's called "No Mans Land" and there's a brilliant version by the Fureys.

"Well how do you do Private William McBride?
Do you mind if I sit here down by your graveside?
And sit for a while in the warm summer's sun.
I've been walking all day and I'm nearly done."
 
My grandfather learnt to "swim" at dunkirk.
Piloted ducks @ D-day and was a dispatch rider in northern france.

My father tells me that he NEVER EVER spoke of what he saw, in particular the horrendous sights he must have witnessed being in the liberation forces first entering the concentration camps.

we owe our freedom to these veterans....

Steve
 
Karl":chagj0g9 said:
SWMBO and I were talking over lunch about how difficult it is to comprehend the events of WW2.

Thanks to all.

Cheers

Karl
Very recently I paid a visit to Poland and spent a considerable time here. The Nazis and the events of WWII take on a completely different perspective when you can tread the ground where these terrible events happened. Recommended, but especially for the young...and supporters of the BNP - Rob
 
Tony Spear":3mxk5qr9 said:
RILEY":3mxk5qr9 said:
There's a verse in an Eric Bogle song that has haunted me since I first heard it....

(It's called "No Mans Land" and there's a brilliant version by the Fureys).

I believe it may be more commonly known as "The Green Fields of France" and indeed the Fureys do the defining version.

Roy's post about his father-in-law was as fine tribute to that selfless generation as I have read. Well done.

Dave
 
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