Sash window profiling and spindle moulders

[Doug71]

@Ollie78 those windows are looking great

 

[Walfy]

If tasked with this window I would do the following.

This is fantastic thank you

It appears my glaziers don't supply this type of glass - hence I wasn't aware of it.

Yes low sightline is what I've been after - I can then replicate just without the sliding sashes. I'm thinking of it as a piece of art rather than a window which I appreciate is a bit odd but then it's the clients choice.

Making the curved glazing bars is my next issue - would you have three panes or 'stick on' for the top section?

I'm imagining a jig for an arc cut across the router table to profile (and haven't got my head around the tenons yet!)

Thank you!

 

[Ollie78]

This is fantastic thank you

It appears my glaziers don't supply this type of glass - hence I wasn't aware of it.

Yes low sightline is what I've been after - I can then replicate just without the sliding sashes. I'm thinking of it as a piece of art rather than a window which I appreciate is a bit odd but then it's the clients choice.

Making the curved glazing bars is my next issue - would you have three panes or 'stick on' for the top section?

I'm imagining a jig for an arc cut across the router table to profile (and haven't got my head around the tenons yet!)

Thank you!

The originals were called slimlight from Edinburgh, there are now many options. I get mine from Treforest glass in Wales, I am on the very edge of their free delivery zone.
I see you are in Oxford, I used to work there for many years fixing old sashes. I do not miss the Botley road roundabout one bit !
Try C N glass in Banbury I have used them before but they were not so good when it came to templated shapes etc. might be better these days.

https://www.treforestglass.co.uk/heritage-slim-low-sight-line-units/

https://www.cnglass.co.uk/double-glazing/heritage-double-glazing/

You could hinge it like a big open inwards door.

I personally never use any type of stick on bars so would do them as proper bars.
This will involve either steam bending and / or laminated sections using a former to get the bar blanks and then some kind of jig to put the mould on them.

 

[Walfy]

Amazing thank you

Luckily I've moved down to somerset - however visiting family reminds me of the A34 - I don't miss it either!

Yes steam bending is out - tried it once and it wasn't for me. Also I think we're going Sapele which doesn't lend itself well to steam - or bending - so I read.

I'm in touch with 'cornish glazing' or somesuch who seem to have a good option for me 20mm overall with 8mm sightlines, good U=values) much better than the 15mm SLs I was looking at before.

I had planned to cut the curves from a single piece (they're only 40cm long) but I guess you'll say it will move over time? even with clever tenoning? looks like I'll have to revisit my quote if we're getting into laminating as I don't have planer/drum sanders etc and this is going to add time and complexity to my life. I would be very interested to know what you would quote for the work, personal message fine - for me it's a fantastic project and I'm expecting it to take at least a month of labour and I can't wait but I need to be charging appropriately and not just t+m because this would be unreasonable - not being a seasoned pro!

Thank you again for all the advice - hugely appreciated

Tomorrow I pick up a spindle moulder, fingers crossed.

 

[Ollie78]

Ah, don`t know anyone in Somerset for units I know there was a good one in Bristol but can`t remember the name of them.

I usually prefer Utile as it has less interlocking grain. You may well be able to cut them out of one piece.
If you select a nice wide board, plain sawn preferably you can find some sections with curved grain to follow.

The spindle moulder will certainly improve your life.