Recognition

[TEP]

I think you will need to buy a lot more than 50 badges.

Usually there is a set up fee of approx. £50 - £60 to have the dies made, this is a one off and the dies last for about 18 - 20 months before they deteriorate. If you wanted the same design after that time they would have to make new dies for you.

So you start with set up fee, cost of badges, postage, vat. I honestly think you must be looking at about 200 - 250 as a minimum order initially to make it worth while.

 

[wizer]

I seriously doubt that 200-250 members will all put their hand up

Perhaps we should go back to thinking of ways to make our own out of wood.

 

[Jenx]

Give it a go .... if it dies on the vine, fair enough.. but you have got this far... an exploratory phone call will soon reveal the validity or otherwise..
:wink: 8)

 

[TEP]

Sorry guys, didn't mean to put a damper on the idea. Even at those figures I'm still up for it. Just sorry to hear you appear to be getting landed with this and a wedding coming up. I would have thought this badge idea was the least of your worries at the moment. Good luck anyway Tom, it was the best thing that has happened to me. Just over 30 years ago I signed the pledge. Mind you I don't tell 'er indoors that.

Did another idea on the badge . This may suite some better.

 

[wizer]

that's a bit better Tam.

I don't mind if someone else wants to take over. But similarly I'm happy to go on making enquiries. We just need to agree on a basic design first. PaulJ mentioned he might have a contact so also waiting back from him.

 

[PowerTool]

I like that one,Tam;the oval shape looks better.
It's nice without being overly showy

Andrew

 

[big soft moose]

I seriously doubt that 200-250 members will all put their hand up

Perhaps we should go back to thinking of ways to make our own out of wood.

as per my previous post I have previously placed orders for 100 25mm badges at a cost of circa £2.50 ea . This included set up costs. incidentally i believe the MBC badges arent cast per se but stamped out of copper then filled with glass powder and fired.

For simple shapes and lettering (like the designs posted thus far) they already have the stamps required which keeps the cost down.

I was also involved with badge creation on another forum and the stumbling block there proved to be not the cost so much as the logistics of gathering in all the money from members, and sending out badges etc - that is a lot of hassle for one person to take on.

 

[Paul.J]

Wizer wrote

PaulJ mentioned he might have a contact so also waiting back from him.

Thanks Wizer.
I also said that i would enquire when the design and size is finalised.
Is there going to be a forum competition.Is it going to the general forum.
If there is only going to be little interest will it be worth carrying on for the cost involved.
At the moment it is only the turning folk who have paid any intersest,and none from the mods :!:

 

[CHJ]

I like that latest one Tam, obviously if this is to take off the matter of bank-rolling the initial order has to be considered. If firm orders from members is awaited then I think the idea would flounder so I think if firm costings can be established then some formal (Mods input?) method of establishing an account fund is needed.

 

[TEP]

Thanks for that Chas, but I was hoping that some others might post some designs as well. Mind you I've got the time at the moment is why I've been messing about. Had a stinking cold, thought I had got over it, then it came back 4 days ago with a vengeance. Back to work tomorrow if all goes well, keeping my fingers crossed.

The point about bank rolling the badge has crossed my mind, and I agree, if someone had to collect the cash before setting up the order it would be a non starter. I really can't see how it can be done without someone paying first and hoping to recoup the money. Which would be a bit of an outlay.

 

[big soft moose]

At the moment it is only the turning folk who have paid any intersest,and none from the mods :!:

as charley isnt arround much , might it be worth raising this with philly or someone via pm ?

I do tend to think that it isnt something we can do without official sign off -amongst other things charley presumably has a copyright on the brand.

also on the issue of funding , experience on other forums indicates that it is one thing for people to say "yay a good idea" and another for them to part with their hard earned. Therefore i'd tend to say that prepayment isnt a bad idea , as if we went with post payment whoever bankrolls it risks being left seriously out of pocket.

 

[TEP]

I agree, I've got a PM I sent to Charley last Thursday still sitting in my Outbox. Mind you there is life outside the forum, although I ain't had much these last few days. No doubt he will pick it up sometime, and there is no great hurry.

 

[boysie39]

Tam, would certainly settle for that design looks brillent.
BSM, has given details of a company who do any No,s from a hundred upwards for about £2.50 There are at the moment 69 posts most of whom have agreed to run with the idea.surely that in itself points to an order of 150. It is cheaper for me to buy 4 than one with the exchange rate so if everyone commited to two I cant see a problem. The longer this goes on and we are talking about saving a penny here or there, iy will just fizzle out.
It may be unfair on Tom (Wizer) to have to go it on his own, perhaps if a a couple other members one of which would be a Mod.if that were possible liasied it would be better. But not me Ihope to be missing for a short while soon.
My pick would be Wizer Tam and the Moose. So thats settled :lol: :lol: :wink: :wink: All in favor say AYE against Nay. AYEs carried REgards Eugene Boysie

 

[Jenx]

AYE :wink:

 

[big soft moose]

My pick would be Wizer Tam and the Moose. So thats settled :lol: :lol: :wink: :wink: All in favor say AYE against Nay. AYEs carried REgards Eugene Boysie

i'd be happy with that if the others are - except that none of us is a mod. That said Tom and I are both getting married shortly (no - not to each other ) so now might not be the best timing for us two

 

[Paul.J]

Surely Charley would have to agree to this,as it his site and his design logo that we are trying to promote,which is already recognisable as it is :?:

 

[big soft moose]

Surely Charley would have to agree to this,as it his site and his design logo that we are trying to promote,which is already recognisable as it is :?:

almost certainly so - but the project on the other forum i mentioned was ready to go when admin decided that they needed to be particular about how they're brand was being portrayed and the need for brand uniformity.

whilst i naturally support their decision , as it is their right to make it, putting the project on hold didnt do a lot for morale, not least because we then had to live with constant "wheres the badge" threads and a lot od disapointed people when it didnt happen

now i'm not saying charley is going to do that - in fact i'd bet that he isnt, but i wouldnt want to invest a lot of time and energy in this without admin signing it off first.


this is the thread from the other forum in question http://www.wildaboutbritain.co.uk/forum ... badge.html its worth a read through as a cautionary tale of the perils of producing goods and the problems that this kind of thing faces.

 

[boysie39]

I dont know when the Big Day for you two is and I wish you both and your good lady's what ever you wish for in life and God Bless your marriges
But could you not bring Laptops with you. :lol: :lol: Or the internet cafe is always there. I hate it when people try to put obsticles in the way. :twisted: :twisted:
Slan Leat agus go niriadh on Bothar leat.
Good Luck and may the road be a long one.
REgards Boysie

 

[big soft moose]

I dont know when the Big Day for you two is and I wish you both and your good lady's what ever you wish for in life and God Bless your marriges
But could you not bring Laptops with you. :lol: :lol: Or the internet cafe is always there. I hate it when people try to put obsticles in the way. :twisted: :twisted:
Slan Leat agus go niriadh on Bothar leat.
Good Luck and may the road be a long one.
REgards Boysie

i'm getting married on the 28th of march ( I think toms is at the end of feb) , and i cant speak for him but my laptop is definitely not going on honeymoon with me (or if it does only for the purposes of downloading memory cards)

 

[Anonymous]

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Tam, could you draft one that simply says :

UKW
(just a a bit of white space for the wearer's name)

Anyone with a colour printer could run one off for themselves and maybe a few blanks for folks to write their own name in... as the 'fly' boy intimated, it's easy enough to do a Blue Peter job on making one.

Let's keep it simple folks :wink:

The initial idea was to have some form of recognition... not to advertise the forum (one can do that when people ask 'What's the Badge for?'
:!: :wink:

To have a posh badge would be nice but I'm sure those with impending nuptials would rather divert their energies elsewhere (I have some unsolicited e-mails I could forward if you have specific problems) :wink:

Can't see Charley having a problem with any of the foregoing... xcept maybe the e-mails :lol: :lol: :lol: