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Yes Fein are there ... 1st floor. Have a number but not loads of accessories there, but quite a few Multimaster kits (£164.95 if I remember correctly).
 
ByronBlack":2d7zfkx5 said:
Tintin thats quite a discount on the bandsaw, going from D&M's website, that's about 20%, do you know if they extend this discount to the larger machine?

Didn't look at bigger machine prices to tell the truth as it was beyond my budget. I think the 300x was £399. They did have at least 3 larger machines on show (Larger than 300X that is) as well as a few big Startright saws.

I expect some of them had show offers as well but can't be sure - sorry
 
As it's fairly local to me I tend to visit most years although I don't usually expect a great deal in the way of discounts, nor, since the exhibitors are in the main D & M's own suppliers, too much variety in the stands from year to year. This show is not in quite the same league as the old Axminster shows at Yeovil.
It was welcome to see Bosch Pro there this year and I was able to pick up a new jigsaw (GST 135) for an excellent price of £109.00 inc. vat plus a free Bluetooth headset :?: and a free fleece (useful with winter approaching.) Best web price I've seen approx. £135.00 + Vat + Delivery
I needed (but didn't expect to find) some spare 12v DeWalt batteries for an old favourite drill/driver and came away with a new drill complete with 2 batteries for £59.95 - far cheaper than just buying replacement batteries, and I now have a back-up drill to boot!
Got some Fein Multimaster blades at well under 50% list price.

Not a bad day all in all, although the outside catering stalls could be improved
 
I went this morning, lots to see as always and the bacon rolls from the stall outside were great too !

Was quite interested in the Woodstar oscillating bobbin sander on the Sheppach stall, came with a selection of bobbins and a show special price of about £90 which seemed amazingly good value. Don't expect it is the same quality as a Jet or similar, but didn't sound rough or anything when I gave it a go. Could have been tempted into an impulse buy but the guy before me got the last one (they had proved popular the day before) so I would have to have ordered and paid £15 for delivery so didn't bother in the end.

Had a look at the AEG stand, hadn't really handled their stuff before, and came away with an absolute bargain industrial quality 1/2" router 2k watts, fine height adjuster etc for £129, normal price being £230 or so I think. Got the last one going as they had proved very popular also and sold out quickly. Just been giving it a spin in the workshop and quite impressed, very quiet and controllable, will compliment the T11 in the table and the smaller DW621 1/4", so fills a gap nicely. Oh, also came with a worktop jig and carry bag which I don't have a use for anytime soon, but solid phenolic it looks like so will find a space in the workshop for it somewhere until needed someday.

The new Bessey K bodies looked good, but was dissapointed that there was not a big sell off of older style K's, they didn't actually have the older ones, so I settled for one of their surprisingly good wee folding stanley knive type kits, which was a lot cheaper !

Brimarc had the only decent hand tools, very much a power tool and machinery set up as you would expect being put on by D&M, but always worth going for a nose round and looking at the new gear and for the odd bargain, after all it's free parking and free entrance, so only your time and travel costs to lose !

Cheers, Paul :D
 
The Woodster Bobbin sander was one of the things I had a close up look at. I was impressed. It was surprisingly solid. The downside is that the table does not tilt, but TBH I'd rather that than the dodgy tilt lock on my Charnwood.
 
I went to the show this morning "too wet for golf" :lol:

Pretty good show better than when I went a few years ago, not many deals as usual.

Top marks to the lady on the Fein stand she replaced a damaged blade that I had only used once and gave me a free (slightly used) 35mm precision blade to see how I get on with it :D .

Irwin chucked a load of freebies in my bag when I bought a few bits and pieces from them , t-shirt, pens, etc, etc

Had a look at the new rail saw from Mafele lots of neat ideas on it compared to my Festool one but I just thought it looked cheap with that horrible hammerite finish they have on them.
 
Me and my dad went this morning, starting off from a minor snow storm at home, and passing through a monsoon of rain on the way, we got there in good time.

I enjoyed it, lots too look at, not many hand-tools or turning tools, but it was good to get a chance to look at some of the machinery and power-tools up close.

I too was quite impressed with the solidness of the bobbin sander, might have to invest in one next year. I also liked the small bench lathe and scroll saw on the scheppach stand, all reasonable price and sturdy build.

The highlight for me was the startrite bandsaws, these were excellent, and the one with the wide tipped re-saw blade was fantastic, the finish was as good as a thicknesser!

The downer for me was the Record Power bandsaws, up close I thought they were very poor, the smaller one made a terrible screaming noise when cutting softwood, so much so, the guy doing the demonstrations was getting drowned out. The larger one (350s) also looked a little cheap, and the salesman was a rather stroppy unhelpful chap who thought demonstrating the startrite would be a good way to sell the massively inferior Record. The fact that it could barely re-saw some softwood was disconcerting, and unfortunately for him, I refused his assumptions of me being 'sold' on it.

So, I went to buy a bandsaw, all the ones I had earmarked as potentials fell by the wayside, but I did buy one in the end. I bought the Basato 4.

The quality IMO was excellent, super-accurate cuts, very easy to setup for drift etc, really solid fence, unlike the one on the Record that felt a bit flimsy despite having the imitation startrite 'chromed bar'. It was nice and large and felt very rigid, the build-quality seemed excellent. The finish was faultess, all the knobs and adjustments felt solid and sturdy with no play - The record had so much slop in the adjustments compared.

The guides are also very good, they can be easily adjusted while the blade is moving, and quickly locked off. It has a 10" re-saw capacity (I only intend to cut a max of 8" so there's a bit of headroom there) nice throat depth. It comes with a nice stand/cupboard for plenty of storage, and the wheel/handle mechanism to move it around was also good.

I checked the tensioner as a few UKWer's mentioned that is a weakness on the Basato 3, on the 4 it seemed decent, the display model had a 3/4 inch blade, and I could a nice 'ping' from the blade when tensioned (there was a bit left too, so I think I could go as far as a 1" blade if thin enough).

With £149 off the catalogue price, a free mitre-gauge, and a price increase coming, I've made about a £250 saving. All in all, I'm chuffed as monkey's!

I should be getting the saw next monday, and will do a mini review.

I wanted to say hi to Argee, but he looked pretty busy throughout.
 
I went today and had half an eye on a ne cordless drill/driver but ended up overwhelmed by choice and decided I'd rather pay full price rather than grab the wrong "bargain" for my needs. (Probably not helped by me not fully deciding what I'm really after).

Did walk away with some Bessey clamps and Wera screwdrivers, plus a nail gun to give as a Xmas present. Also had a demo of the Fein which saved my £165... :wink:
 
Byron - nice one on the bandsaw...I thought they looked quite good when I saw one at Yandles a while back, will be interested to read your take on it as and when. The machine also got a good review in F&C recently as well - Rob
 
woodbloke":2mieqyxe said:
Byron - nice one on the bandsaw...I thought they looked quite good when I saw one at Yandles a while back, will be interested to read you take on it as and when. The machine also got a good review in F&C recently as well - Rob

I really gave it a good look over (twice!) first when I got in, I then went and checked out the RP and Startrite saw's and then came back to the Scheppy so I had something to compare it to. Originally I was mulling over the Basato 3 as they've recently updated it to a larger d.o.c, quick release blade mechanism and a strengthened core, but when I worked out the saving for the Bas 4 including the large 2hp motor and 10" d.o.c it seemed very good value, considering the Record Power BS350s (it's nearest competitor) looked pretty poor in comparison and was only about 60 quid cheaper.

Also, Record Power couldn't guarentee delivery for three weeks, whereas the scheppy could be delivered within a few days, the guys at NMA were excellent, super-friendly, helpful and most of all unlike the RP guy, completely honest and up-front about the machines limitations/capabilities.

Rob, do you happen to know which issue of F&C it was in? (I've not been buying F&C recently).
 
BB wrote -
Rob, do you happen to know which issue of F&C it was in? (I've not been buying F&C recently).
If you do some Googlisationing for the 'Woodworkers Institute' (no sniggering at the back there!) which is the GMC website, supposedly :?.... you'll find the article on there,if memory serves, John Bullar did the review - Rob
 
woodbloke":21m99z7h said:
BB wrote -
Rob, do you happen to know which issue of F&C it was in? (I've not been buying F&C recently).
If you do some Googlisationing for the 'Woodworkers Institute' (no sniggering at the back there!) which is the GMC website, supposedly :?.... you'll find the article on there,if memory serves, John Bullar did the review - Rob

Cheers Rob - great made up word there! Thats of G.Bush proportions! :) I'm going to go and googlimafi the WI
 
As BB has said, we went to the show today, a bit disappointed about the lack of turning tools, but was worth every minute there just to see the look on Byron's face when he had bought his new saw, a mixture of excitement and pleasure. This I can understand 'cos it really is a nice looking saw, and seemed to work really well.
As for me, I managed to find some turning tools on the Record stand, but decided only on the bowl sander ( same as Sandmaster) and a packet of round sanding discs.
Apart from this, I would definitely go again next year as I really did enjoy myself just looking, great.
 

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