President Elect's 'top team'

[Spectric]

Putin uses missiles, drones and artillery from Iran and N Korea to fire into Ukraine,

The issue no one wants to accept as the consequences are that horrific is the nuclear, chemical and biological arsenal that Russia has. The only reason Biden has done this now is because he wants to make things more difficult for Trump even if it puts his own family in danger which he may not even realise in his condition.

I am reminded of Bomber Harris and his observation that the Germans expected to be able to bomb everyone else, without anyone bombing them.

The whole concept of war has since entered a whole new phase where total extinction is now possible and yet we still do not learn, in those days lives were lost in the hundreds, now you would count them in the millions.

This war will only stop when people start talking, difficult decisions will have to be made but that is the outcome which could save us all.

Has anyone wondered what Starmer will be saying to X Ping when they meet, is this again just political as Trump is not a Starmer fan so instead Starmer turns to China as a snub to Trump.

 

[Chris152]

The issue no one wants to accept as the consequences are that horrific is the nuclear, chemical and biological arsenal that Russia has. The only reason Biden has done this now is because he wants to make things more difficult for Trump even if it puts his own family in danger which he may not even realise in his condition.

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Has anyone wondered what Starmer will be saying to X Ping when they meet, is this again just political as Trump is not a Starmer fan so instead Starmer turns to China as a snub to Trump.

But you're just making up motives for people - what evidence is there to support your assertions? All you seem to have is a dislike of Biden and Starmer, and your assertions align with that dislike. It's not impossible that what you write is true, but it's also possible that my teacup is about to jump up and sing Rule Britannia - extremely unlikely given what we know of teacups, but it's possible we've overlooked something.
Why should we believe your assertions?

 

[ey_tony]

The bottom line is, Biden is trying to put the Ukranians in a stronger position to hang on to their land once Trump casually 'settles' the war with Putin.
The idea it's just an attempt to make things difficult for Trump is beyond daft.

The bottom line is that it's people with a flawed outlook who can't see the clear and potential dangers of Biden's actions.
Irrespective of one's perspective of Putin and what has happened in Ukraine so far, he and the Russian nation have an arsenal of nuclear weapons capable of wiping out most of the developed world and yet people like Biden and his supporters want to provoke the situation even further by the use of long range weapons which could herald in WW3!
You couldn't make it up given the hysteria there is over the possibility of Iran accomplishing the production of nuclear weapons in the next few years!

Talk about can't see the wood for the trees!

Threats will not work with Putin or Russia. The EU has been interfering and provoking Russia since the breakup of the Soviet Union, relying upon big brother USA to stand behind them but that could all change and then what does Europe do without the USA to back it?
Strongarm tactics will not settle this problem in any case...like most conflicts the peace is settled around the negotiating table and not with weapons that could wipe out the entire human race.

The fear over global warming is nothing compared to the risks of nuclear war.

 

[Chris152]

The bottom line is that it's people with a flawed outlook who can't see the clear and potential dangers of Biden's actions.
Irrespective of one's perspective of Putin and what has happened in Ukraine so far, he and the Russian nation have an arsenal of nuclear weapons capable of wiping out most of the developed world and yet people like Biden and his supporters want to provoke the situation even further by the use of long range weapons which could herald in WW3!
You couldn't make it up given the hysteria there is over the possibility of Iran accomplishing the production of nuclear weapons in the next few years!

Talk about can't see the wood for the trees!

Threats will not work with Putin or Russia. The EU has been interfering and provoking Russia since the breakup of the Soviet Union, relying upon big brother USA to stand behind them but that could all change and then what does Europe do without the USA to back it?
Strongarm tactics will not settle this problem in any case...like most conflicts the peace is settled around the negotiating table and not with weapons that could wipe out the entire human race.

The fear over global warming is nothing compared to the risks of nuclear war.

I think we're all fully aware of the dangers involved. We should also be aware of the dangers involved of allowing Putin to do as he wills.

 

[sploo]

I’ve noticed th remoaners want to be back in so they don’t have to work in government or public services as all decisions are taken out of their hands by the eu, so working from home means doing nothing apart from riding a keep fit bike in the lounge and watching tv.

That's such a deranged post I can't work out whether it's serious, or a parody of the sort of thing you might see in a Mail Online comment.

 

[Delaney]

Well it looks like it is not all rosy between biden and trump after all, looks like Biden wants to ensure Trump has a real mess to sort out as he has now said Ukraine can use American long range missiles against Russia, the Russian argument has been that these missiles only function with NATO based data from NATO military systems and therefore it means NATO is directly involved. Biden might be trying to cause massive instability and he knows he has nothing to loose.

I doubt it’s Biden but rather the cabal of administration heads, who’ve been running the government ever since he was elected.

I assume Blackrock wants to secure as much of what’s left as possible, so they can cash in on reconstruction. Putin wants to gain as much as he can, so when Trump comes in, he has as much as possible to negotiate with.

The launching of such missiles if effective against Russian, could potentially make Russia call for that ceasefire sooner than later and award the Democrats with stopping the war, stealing one of Trumps wins and stopping Putin, from taking more land that he may likely be given by Trump, as a term for a cease fire. Certainly the Democrats believe Trump will Give Putin what he has won in battle, which is a huge red line for the dems.

I doubt that would work but I doubt Putin will start a war with Nato. He likely can’t wait for Trump to get in, so someone with some common sense (liberal meltdown incoming), can end this disgraceful American led massacre of Europeans.

 

[sploo]

I doubt that would work but I doubt Putin will start a war with Nato. He likely can’t wait for Trump to get in, so someone with some common sense (liberal meltdown incoming), can end this disgraceful American led massacre of Europeans.

If common sense is giving a violent dictator what he's stolen then consider me to be having a liberal meltdown. I'll even be the woke metropolitan elite if that makes you happy.

 

[Jacob]

That's such a deranged post I can't work out whether it's serious, or a parody of the sort of thing you might see in a Mail Online comment.

Better out than in!
Must have been one of those early-morning half-asleep flashes of inspiration, which just make no sense at all in the light of day. I have them too!
Like waking up with the answer to the mysteries of the universe, as "42"

 

[Yojevol]

He received over 76 million votes more than any other president in history.

I think you need a comma somewhere in the middle of that sentence

 

[Fergie 307]

I think we're all fully aware of the dangers involved. We should also be aware of the dangers involved of allowing Putin to do as he wills.

Exactly. If all some dictator who has a nuclear capability has to to is threaten to use it, and we all kow tow then where does that end?

Three questions

Would Putin actually go so far as to use a nuclear weapon in Ukraine, or is it just sabre rattling?
The man is evil but he's not stupid.

Would those actually responsible for firing the thing obey the order?
Given the likely consequences I'm not so sure. If Russia was in mortal danger then probably yes, but that is by no means the case.

Would they actually work?
Given the state of his conventional equipment there has to be some doubt about that. What is certain is that there are an awful lot of weapons targeted at Russia, and they probably are in good order. Senior figures in the Russian military will know the true state of her capabilities.

So overall you have to ask yourself is he really prepared to start a nuclear exchange over Ukraine, given that the likely result will be his own, and his people and country's destruction.

The conquest of Ukraine never served any other purpose than to further Putin's expansionist ambitions. Not much of a cause on which to base a major war directly with the west.

 

[dephill]

I think you need a comma somewhere in the middle of that sentence

Yes brother! I agree. Let us all be united in harmony by our grammatical pedantry.
One love.

 

[Fergie 307]

Haven't caught up with the latest but sincerely hope Biden will lift all restrictions.
I have no doubt the Ukrainians will have prepared lists of likely targets to cut off supplies to Russian forces. If they can drastically reduce their supplies of ammunition, fuel and so forth then they may have little option but to withdraw.

 

[Fergie 307]

The bottom line is that it's people with a flawed outlook who can't see the clear and potential dangers of Biden's actions.
Irrespective of one's perspective of Putin and what has happened in Ukraine so far, he and the Russian nation have an arsenal of nuclear weapons capable of wiping out most of the developed world and yet people like Biden and his supporters want to provoke the situation even further by the use of long range weapons which could herald in WW3!
You couldn't make it up given the hysteria there is over the possibility of Iran accomplishing the production of nuclear weapons in the next few years!

Talk about can't see the wood for the trees!

Threats will not work with Putin or Russia. The EU has been interfering and provoking Russia since the breakup of the Soviet Union, relying upon big brother USA to stand behind them but that could all change and then what does Europe do without the USA to back it?
Strongarm tactics will not settle this problem in any case...like most conflicts the peace is settled around the negotiating table and not with weapons that could wipe out the entire human race.

The fear over global warming is nothing compared to the risks of nuclear war.

And you don't think Trump is in any way to blame?
What about his childish decision to pull out of the deal with Iran, thereby driving them straight into the arms of Putin.
I mean come on, he is supposed to be the master of "the art of the deal", right?
If he thought the deal with Iran was that bad then why didn't he simply bring his unprecedented genius to bear on the problem, and negotiate a better one?

 

[sploo]

I think you need a comma somewhere in the middle of that sentence

Commas are critical. Especially when it's the difference between "helping your uncle jack, off a horse", or "helping your uncle jack off a horse".

(I'll get my coat)

 

[Jake]

I think you need a comma somewhere in the middle of that sentence

He needs some factual accuracy too. Biden got 81 million (and a majority of the popular vote, which Trump looks increasingly unlikely to get).

 

[RobinBHM]

He likely can’t wait for Trump to get in,

That's correct, Trump is Putins puppet he cant wait to manipulate him....he will play him like a fiddle.

 

[Delaney]

If common sense is giving a violent dictator what he's stolen then consider me to be having a liberal meltdown. I'll even be the woke metropolitan elite if that makes you happy?

You can make yourself whatever you want.

You can also go over and fight, if you feel that strongly about things and stop using other people as cannon fodder for your ‘beliefs’,

I suspect most Ukrainians would rather be alive, than being beaten, press ganged and frog marched off to die in a ditch, so you can feel good about yourself.

Oh yes, you forgot about that didn’t you. A lot of the people fighting your little war don’t want to and they’re going to die. They can’t escape, Ukraine closed the borders.you’ve turned them into slaves of death.

Bravo

 

[Blackswanwood]

Of course it's an alternative to the wokery that you watch, hadn't you figured that out but then again, judging by your repeated attempts to find ways to attack me in every post where I'm concerned you're not exactly the sharpest chisel in the workshop are you?

I said it makes a change to watch something that is entertaining with a completely different perspective on the news, I didn't say it wasn't biased or prejudiced or that I agreed with all of what they broadcast, I merely said I found it entertaining, much like your attempts to goad me!

Sorry Tony - I am not trying to goad you. I'm actually trying to learn from you as I admire your open mind, enlightened wisdom and ability to put across your point of view so clearly and with such respect for others who may have formed different opinions.

You saying the video from Sky News Australia was ...

an alternative view from the usual left wing sympathetic woke mainstream media

... worried me that someone with such high standards may have erred.

If you meant to say it came from a news source that presented an alternative view you would have needed to say "an alternative view to the usual left wing sympathetic woke mainstream media" ... but good attempt at a recovery

 

[ey_tony]

Exactly. If all some dictator who has a nuclear capability has to to is threaten to use it, and we all kow tow then where does that end?

Three questions

Would Putin actually go so far as to use a nuclear weapon in Ukraine, or is it just sabre rattling?
The man is evil but he's not stupid.

Would those actually responsible for firing the thing obey the order?
Given the likely consequences I'm not so sure. If Russia was in mortal danger then probably yes, but that is by no means the case.

Would they actually work?
Given the state of his conventional equipment there has to be some doubt about that. What is certain is that there are an awful lot of weapons targeted at Russia, and they probably are in good order. Senior figures in the Russian military will know the true state of her capabilities.

So overall you have to ask yourself is he really prepared to start a nuclear exchange over Ukraine, given that the likely result will be his own, and his people and country's destruction.

The conquest of Ukraine never served any other purpose than to further Putin's expansionist ambitions. Not much of a cause on which to base a major war directly with the west.

Are you actually in favour of the USA providing the full on capabilities of long range ballistic missiles provided to Ukraine to use to provoke a reaction from Putin/Russia enough to see if he/they are bluffing or not?
This isn't a game of poker or blink, it's the future of mankind which be affected if things go wrong. If Putin is as bad as many people claim he is, then I'd doubt he'd think twice if his country was attacked with weapons provided by the West.

Better to negotiate a settlement of hostilities rather than force one through military might as it will always be seen as an unresolved issue and no doubt erupt again further down the line.

 

[Chris152]

Are you actually in favour of the USA providing the full on capabilities of long range ballistic missiles provided to Ukraine to use to provoke a reaction from Putin/Russia enough to see if he/they are bluffing or not?
This isn't a game of poker or blink, it's the future of mankind which be affected if things go wrong. If Putin is as bad as many people claim he is, then I'd doubt he'd think twice if his country was attacked with weapons provided by the West.

Better to negotiate a settlement of hostilities rather than force one through military might as it will always be seen as an unresolved issue and no doubt erupt again further down the line.

How very woke of you, Tony - negotiate rather than fight. Next you'll be joining a commune and hugging trees.