We are of course straying off topic, but it's amusing to see that 5% of UKIP supporters voted Remain. When you're a supporter of what was basically a single issue party... and you vote against the single issue pushed by that partyThe full figures - so everyone can cherry pick their own......
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To help @Noel after his character assignation (making a discussion personal only diminishes their perspective) I thought I’d share one of my actual ‘valued’ sources of journalistic reviews of current affairs. Rita is a star!
Your post is even funnier because Murdock doesn’t own it!Christ. Australian Sky News. Everything I've ever seen from that channel is as batsh*t mental as Fox News. Which isn't surprising of course.
I don't like UK Sky News, let alone this garbage.
If you delight in any Murdoch owned news outlet, you need your head examined.
How are these figures obtained?The full figures - so everyone can cherry pick their own......
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To help @Noel after his character assignation (making a discussion personal only diminishes their perspective) I thought I’d share one of my actual ‘valued’ sources of journalistic reviews of current affairs. Rita is a star!
Close enough:Your post is even funnier because Murdock doesn’t own it!
I don’t class myself as a left winger but can live with it if some people need to allocate labels and think I am.I do wonder about all the left wingers hand wringing over Trumps election. This was true democracy in action. He received over 76 million votes more than any other president in history. Overwhelming it’s what the American public wanted.
We have a left wing government in the UK but I didn’t see a huge amount of debate over the fact they were able form a government with only 34% of those who voted, voting for them and giving them 67% of the seats in parliament. That’s clearly absurd result and a failure of our system. Is it just the left wingers are sore losers?
Many argue that it was never a descision that should have been at federal level and as such, was undemocratic.In his first term Trump appointed judges to the Supreme Court who were Republicans. Once appointed they sit for life so until one dies there is no opportunity to even things up. It’s highly politicised.
Reversing Roe v Wade was very much a decision to keep the Bible Belt in the Republican fold.
You are right that Trump has appealed to voters with some very simple messages (plus a load of untruths). Unfortunately though his ideas will lead to many unintended (or in his case perhaps not cared about) consequences. In most democracies the legal system acts as a check and balance - it’s difficult to see how that applies when the appointment of Supreme Court judges is based on the whim of a politician.
Good point, we just have Rachael who allegedly lied on her CV as Chancellor of the Exchequer and a Deputy Leader who couldn’t get a single qualification and a Foreign Secretary who thinks calling other countries elected representatives childish names is diplomacy. The Conservatives were just as bad.I don’t class myself as a left winger but can live with it if some people need to allocate labels and think I am.
It’s an accepted fact that Trump won. The result is what the US political system delivered.
Comparing the number of votes Trump got with past presidents is perhaps flawed as the population rises each year. That doesn’t mean that he didn’t win by a margin - he won both the college and popular vote. The number who voted for Harris is the minority - but it’s still a significant number of people.
This was democracy in action. Whether it’s good democracy is debatable. For example the antics of Musk running a lottery connected to how people promised to vote is a bit unedifying at best and bent at worst. Social Media meant the lies moved faster than the chance to correct things etc etc. Despite what you posted earlier no one knows what Trumps view is on abortion - he keeps changing what he says. There’s an interesting article on the BBC News site today about how US Christians view him.
I’m far from convinced that there is a majority in the UK who think Trump is good for the world. I’m also sure that view is not just held by “left wingers”. I also think it’s inevitable many in the UK will have a view. The UK has hitched it’s wagon to the US over many years and if things turn out badly for them the whole world will feel the effects. There’s also an element of “you couldn’t make it up” about Trump and some of the appointments he’s making. Whatever the party I’m pretty sure in the UK we wouldn’t have a Health Secretary who is an anti-vaccer or Home Secretary who has an outstanding investigation into his sexual antics?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YouGovHow are these figures obtained?
Oh dear - it’s owned by News Corp Australia which is Murdoch’s holding company. Sky News in the UK is no longer part of Murdochs empire. You do realise you’ve been watching an Australian news channel don’t you?Your post is even funnier because Murdock doesn’t own it!
Yes it was the largest number of votes all the way back until you get to Joe Biden in 2020 who got 81 millionHe received over 76 million votes more than any other president in history
I’m sorry, my error, you’re right. Teach me for only checking CNNYes it was the largest number of votes all the way back until you get to Joe Biden in 2020 who got 81 million
Oh my goodness, shot myself in both feet! Must try harder, thank you for correcting my Billy Do. Sorry.Oh dear - it’s owned by News Corp Australia which is Murdoch’s holding company. Sky News in the UK is no longer part of Murdochs empire. You do realise you’ve been watching an Australian news channel don’t you?
Good point, we just have Rachael who allegedly lied on her CV as Chancellor of the Exchequer and a Deputy Leader who couldn’t get a single qualification and a Foreign Secretary who thinks calling other countries elected representatives childish names is diplomacy. The Conservatives were just as bad
deema is very on the ball about spindle moulding.Well based on your track record of facts I’m glad they run the country rather than you
Ouch, that’s savage!Well based on your track record of facts I’m glad they run the country rather than you