President Elect's 'top team'

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The full figures - so everyone can cherry pick their own......
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We are of course straying off topic, but it's amusing to see that 5% of UKIP supporters voted Remain. When you're a supporter of what was basically a single issue party... and you vote against the single issue pushed by that party 🤷‍♂️

Almost as weird as Sideways finding post #114 funny, but whatever. Ain't nowt as strange as people.
 
To help @Noel after his character assignation (making a discussion personal only diminishes their perspective) I thought I’d share one of my actual ‘valued’ sources of journalistic reviews of current affairs. Rita is a star!😂😝



Christ. Australian Sky News. Everything I've ever seen from that channel is as batsh*t mental as Fox News. Which isn't surprising of course.

I don't like UK Sky News, let alone this garbage.

If you delight in any Murdoch owned news outlet, you need your head examined.
 
Christ. Australian Sky News. Everything I've ever seen from that channel is as batsh*t mental as Fox News. Which isn't surprising of course.

I don't like UK Sky News, let alone this garbage.

If you delight in any Murdoch owned news outlet, you need your head examined.
Your post is even funnier because Murdock doesn’t own it! 😂
 
To help @Noel after his character assignation (making a discussion personal only diminishes their perspective) I thought I’d share one of my actual ‘valued’ sources of journalistic reviews of current affairs. Rita is a star!😂😝


Sounds like they all been sprayed with essence of Hitler!
They do have a point however - although all the quotes they've trawled for make perfect sense the "left" just lack the confidence to shout them out in public - as the Trumptards do routinely - any old s**t in fact.
They need to shout as loud and crudely as the Trumptards, but in support of sensible intelligent policies.
Be radical but loud and uncompromising, take risks; beat the Trumptards at their own game?
And in the UK, not to forget that uncompromising "hard lefty" Corbyn got the largest turnout for Labour this century so far. Even 2019 only pipped by a small number by Bliar in 2001(pre Iraq, not yet totally discredited).
 
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Your post is even funnier because Murdock doesn’t own it! 😂
Close enough:

'The channel was originally a joint venture between British broadcaster BSkyB (thus making it a spin-off of the Sky News channel in the United Kingdom), Seven Media Group, and Nine Entertainment Co., as Australian News Channel Pty Ltd. The company was acquired by News Corp Australia in 2016;[5] with the subsequent sale of Murdoch's remaining shares in Sky UK to Comcast,[6] Sky News Australia no longer has any direct ties to its UK counterpart, despite still using the Sky News brand.

Especially since the acquisition of the channel by News Corp Australia, Sky News Australia has faced scrutiny from the press over its increased focus on opinion programming. Comparisons were drawn to Rupert Murdoch's American news channel Fox News, and there have been accusations that the channel's opinion programming has promoted misinformation and untrue conspiracy theories.'

(Wikipedia)
 
I do wonder about all the left wingers hand wringing over Trumps election. This was true democracy in action. He received over 76 million votes more than any other president in history. Overwhelming it’s what the American public wanted.
We have a left wing government in the UK but I didn’t see a huge amount of debate over the fact they were able form a government with only 34% of those who voted, voting for them and giving them 67% of the seats in parliament. That’s clearly absurd result and a failure of our system. Is it just the left wingers are sore losers?
I don’t class myself as a left winger but can live with it if some people need to allocate labels and think I am.

It’s an accepted fact that Trump won. The result is what the US political system delivered.

Comparing the number of votes Trump got with past presidents is perhaps flawed as the population rises each year. That doesn’t mean that he didn’t win by a margin - he won both the college and popular vote. The number who voted for Harris is the minority - but it’s still a significant number of people.

This was democracy in action. Whether it’s good democracy is debatable. For example the antics of Musk running a lottery connected to how people promised to vote is a bit unedifying at best and bent at worst. Social Media meant the lies moved faster than the chance to correct things etc etc. Despite what you posted earlier no one knows what Trumps view is on abortion - he keeps changing what he says. There’s an interesting article on the BBC News site today about how US Christians view him.

I’m far from convinced that there is a majority in the UK who think Trump is good for the world. I’m also sure that view is not just held by “left wingers”. I also think it’s inevitable many in the UK will have a view. The UK has hitched it’s wagon to the US over many years and if things turn out badly for them the whole world will feel the effects. There’s also an element of “you couldn’t make it up” about Trump and some of the appointments he’s making. Whatever the party I’m pretty sure in the UK we wouldn’t have a Health Secretary who is an anti-vaccer or Home Secretary who has an outstanding investigation into his sexual antics?
 

In his first term Trump appointed judges to the Supreme Court who were Republicans. Once appointed they sit for life so until one dies there is no opportunity to even things up. It’s highly politicised.

Reversing Roe v Wade was very much a decision to keep the Bible Belt in the Republican fold.

You are right that Trump has appealed to voters with some very simple messages (plus a load of untruths). Unfortunately though his ideas will lead to many unintended (or in his case perhaps not cared about) consequences. In most democracies the legal system acts as a check and balance - it’s difficult to see how that applies when the appointment of Supreme Court judges is based on the whim of a politician.
Many argue that it was never a descision that should have been at federal level and as such, was undemocratic.
Even RB, the goddess of the democratic left, thought it should be a state decision.

The idea it is based on the whim of a politicin is not born out. It is based on a series of democratic outcomes and legal theory.

I think your reading of it is a bit biased.
 
I don’t class myself as a left winger but can live with it if some people need to allocate labels and think I am.

It’s an accepted fact that Trump won. The result is what the US political system delivered.

Comparing the number of votes Trump got with past presidents is perhaps flawed as the population rises each year. That doesn’t mean that he didn’t win by a margin - he won both the college and popular vote. The number who voted for Harris is the minority - but it’s still a significant number of people.

This was democracy in action. Whether it’s good democracy is debatable. For example the antics of Musk running a lottery connected to how people promised to vote is a bit unedifying at best and bent at worst. Social Media meant the lies moved faster than the chance to correct things etc etc. Despite what you posted earlier no one knows what Trumps view is on abortion - he keeps changing what he says. There’s an interesting article on the BBC News site today about how US Christians view him.

I’m far from convinced that there is a majority in the UK who think Trump is good for the world. I’m also sure that view is not just held by “left wingers”. I also think it’s inevitable many in the UK will have a view. The UK has hitched it’s wagon to the US over many years and if things turn out badly for them the whole world will feel the effects. There’s also an element of “you couldn’t make it up” about Trump and some of the appointments he’s making. Whatever the party I’m pretty sure in the UK we wouldn’t have a Health Secretary who is an anti-vaccer or Home Secretary who has an outstanding investigation into his sexual antics?
Good point, we just have Rachael who allegedly lied on her CV as Chancellor of the Exchequer and a Deputy Leader who couldn’t get a single qualification and a Foreign Secretary who thinks calling other countries elected representatives childish names is diplomacy. The Conservatives were just as bad.
 
How are these figures obtained?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YouGov
To be fair though, the vote was in many ways a protest vote, due not least to the feebleness of the remain lobby. They should have laid it on, shouted louder.
Cameron though it was no contest but didn't bother to say why.
Johnson was just half-witted populist chancer.
 
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Oh dear - it’s owned by News Corp Australia which is Murdoch’s holding company. Sky News in the UK is no longer part of Murdochs empire. You do realise you’ve been watching an Australian news channel don’t you?
Oh my goodness, shot myself in both feet! Must try harder, thank you for correcting my Billy Do. Sorry.
 
Good point, we just have Rachael who allegedly lied on her CV as Chancellor of the Exchequer and a Deputy Leader who couldn’t get a single qualification and a Foreign Secretary who thinks calling other countries elected representatives childish names is diplomacy. The Conservatives were just as bad

Well based on your track record of facts I’m glad they run the country rather than you 😉
 
Well based on your track record of facts I’m glad they run the country rather than you 😉
Ouch, that’s savage!
Two Billy Do’s and the integrity to apologise when I’m wrong, your absolutely right, makes me completely unsuitable to run the country😜
 
To help @Noel after his character assignation (making a discussion personal only diminishes their perspective) I thought I’d share one of my actual ‘valued’ sources of journalistic reviews of current affairs. Rita is a star!😂😝


I thoroughly enjoyed that video, an alternative view from the usual left wing sympathetic woke mainstream media. Some excellent candidates chosen by DT for the posts (y)
That should give the Tooting Popular Front's faces a bright red blush to them! ;)
 
I thoroughly enjoyed that video, an alternative view from the usual left wing sympathetic woke mainstream media. Some excellent candidates chosen by DT for the posts (y)
That should give the Tooting Popular Front's faces a bright red blush to them! ;)
Tony - it’s Sky News Australia which is owned (as is Fox News) by Rupert Murdoch. Try to keep up!
 
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