Jacob
What goes around comes around.
But it isn't really true https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-45827430
President Elect's 'top team'
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John Brown
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Why can't we deny it?
American has some serious issues, unprecedented illegal invasion from the south, eye watering national debt, lose of manufacturing overseas, and its NATO partners in the main (UK being an exception) not paying its fair share / committed level of expenditure to defend its boarders and relying on America to defend it all at their expense. States / cities that are now lawless with overwhelming crime levels causing businesses to shut up shop and run, drug epidemic, and an education system once the end if the world so far down the world league table most second world countries now look down on it. Mr Trump has suggested solutions to each major issue, the Democrats offered no solutions and failed to recognise the issues. When you take the emotion and ‘feelings’ out if it, it’s not hard to understand why the Republicans have achieved a revolution and taken over so completely.
The BBC lost its integrity to call itself a news channel many years ago. I prefer to refer to the USA government statistics created whilst the Democrats were in power. You can’t real suggest a right wing bias when the numbers are created whilst the left have the top jobs!
Not sure I'd agree with that. Many with a theology degree are in the church. My uncle had degrees in philosophy and theology and worked for the church as a volunteer most of his life, and a cousin on my mothers side is a Monsignor at a higher stage you cant reach without a theology degree.
So thats 2 in one family
John Brown
Freeloading Social media influenza
Could you provide a link to those numbers, please?
Nothing expresses the actual reality better than humour. I reminded of the episode if Yes Prime Minister where a new archbishop was to be selected.
It always seems hypocritical to have a say the Church or England and the Catholic church’s rolling in billions whilst preaching about helping the poor……charity begins at home, so why not use the billions to do good rather than what ever they do with it!
RobinBHM
Established Member
Has he?
Healthcare -No
Immigration -No
Protection of women’s rights -No
Economy - his ideas have been denounced broadly amongst experts
America have recovered from the pandemic faster than any other economy.
America has had one of the highest growth rates globally whilst inflation is now down to around 2.6%
Rate of employment has been high.
Bidens policies have been pretty good
Sorry if this seems rude, but looking up USA economic data, reports, statistics is a very simple, google will take you straight there, and then chose what your interested in. Their reports tend to be very very long!
John Brown
Freeloading Social media influenza
I have no.interest in the church, in fact I'm a devout athiest, but I'd always thought that the expression "charity begins at home" meant that the practice of caring for others was something learnt or inculcated at home. Yet it often seems to be employed as an excuse for charity to remain at home. Have I got this wrong?
The yes minister episode is very funny.
But in seriousness the catholic church spends billions on good causes every year
The Catholic Church has financed, built, equipped and runs 5000 fully functioning hospitals (70% in Third World); Pharmacies; mobile medical units to reach isolated vulnerable communities.
150,000 schools from primary to university and education programmes for girls in countries that do not educate them.
In addition countless supported living facilities for people vulnerable from physical, mental, learning disabilities, aged, homelessness shelters and hospices. - My uncle- the one who volunteered for them had polio as a child and lived for a time in one of these homes. I suppose thats maybe the reason he dedicated his life to the church in thanks for the support they had given him
Provision tens of thousands of weekly visits to lonely and housebound people worldwide.
Water filtration programmes and assisting disabled civilian peasant farmers and children with limbs blown off by US and European made landmines. Prosthetic limbs, special transport to enable them to be able to continue with education and learn new skills to support their families.
Wow, you’ve probably hit on the most debated issues, ones which I suspect most people can say what his view is on each of them.
Immigration, after decrying Trump wanting to and actually building a wall in his first term, the democrats decided towards the end that a wall was a good idea after all. You may have missed his well published outlandish idea of rounding up illegals and dumping them back south which he proposed in his latest election campaign? I’m not sayin* whether he’s right or wrong just he proposed ‘simple’ solutions that are easily understood.
Many women would say he has done more for women’s rights by actually stating what a woman is and stating categorically no biological man will be able to claim to be a woman.
Economy, you may have missed his assertion of massive tariffs to protect American jobs? Or Elon to head up DOGE?
I can’t actual state the democrats position on any of the subjects you brought up! Harris seemed to dodge every question on the subjects.
John Brown
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No, not rude, just evasive.
I don’t believe either side, Democrats or Republicans didn’t accept or recognise the issues that I’ve suggested plus a number of others. It was just that one was more forthcoming and articulate with its proposed solutions than the other.
RobinBHM
Established Member
Trump never built a wall, he built 52 miles and repaired 450miles
Nothing like building a wall at all
So he sells political slogans….that’s not policies.
Are you kidding me, Roe V Wade reversal has set back women’s rights 50 years.
Your trans point is a weak culture war defelection.
That’s a political slogan
Trade experts and economists say it will be inflationary and thus cost jobs
Have you looked for them?
I can state them
@RobinBHM i have said whether you agree or disagree, he has ideas or political slogans that were popular with the American voters.
Roe versus Wade was reversed by the Supreme Court, not a political party.
Abortion is a very sensitive subject with heated debates and each side taking no prisoners in their perspective. Which ever way you view the subject, the real answer is that it has very little of anything to do with women’s rights in the broadest sense. On the important stuff like equal opportunity, education, pay, promotion, voting etc are in any danger by either party.
But back to the substance of the original post. For me, time will tell, he’s clearly appointing people he feels he won’t be in a political battle with, and who will get his ideas done. Governments would be wise to look at forging relationships with the new administration rather than say calling them ‘Nazis’. People do business with people, if you start of hating them ideologically your unlikely to either bring them closer to your perspective or indeed get through the door to have a debate in the first place.
Roe versus Wade was reversed by the Supreme Court, not a political party.
Abortion is a very sensitive subject with heated debates and each side taking no prisoners in their perspective. Which ever way you view the subject, the real answer is that it has very little of anything to do with women’s rights in the broadest sense. On the important stuff like equal opportunity, education, pay, promotion, voting etc are in any danger by either party.
But back to the substance of the original post. For me, time will tell, he’s clearly appointing people he feels he won’t be in a political battle with, and who will get his ideas done. Governments would be wise to look at forging relationships with the new administration rather than say calling them ‘Nazis’. People do business with people, if you start of hating them ideologically your unlikely to either bring them closer to your perspective or indeed get through the door to have a debate in the first place.
Ed Weber
Established Member
This is simply untrue
How exactly do you measure prosperous?
This is the age old Republican argument, as long as gas and groceries are less expensive, nobody cares if the whole place is burning down around them. Not to mention, the president has absolutely nothing to do with the price of gas or groceries.
And why, if everything was so great, are they constantly trying to tear everything apart?
duke
Established Member
They never will give what's needed, GREED.
Blackswanwood
Still Learning
I suggest that you take a look at how the US judiciary and legal system works.
In his first term Trump appointed judges to the Supreme Court who were Republicans. Once appointed they sit for life so until one dies there is no opportunity to even things up. It’s highly politicised.
Reversing Roe v Wade was very much a decision to keep the Bible Belt in the Republican fold.
You are right that Trump has appealed to voters with some very simple messages (plus a load of untruths). Unfortunately though his ideas will lead to many unintended (or in his case perhaps not cared about) consequences. In most democracies the legal system acts as a check and balance - it’s difficult to see how that applies when the appointment of Supreme Court judges is based on the whim of a politician.
Well it all kicks off in January, so we'll see what happens when it does.
I predict that we wont see the major cracks appearing for at least 2 years in the US economy, to the point Trump and his cabinet of(insert expletive) will be blaming all and sundry - Biden, the federal government, traitors in industry, things we've all heard before.
By year three the only chance Trump will have to keep anything other than the most fervent support is to engage in a full blown culture war, as they make the best scapegoats, and by year 4 even the right wing media, possibly under the weight of public pressure,and the fact they can no longer hide the created problems, and will start to show Trump in a negative light, then push for a new government, republican of course, but they'll want shot of him.
Of course the right wing media will accept no blame for their sycophant nature during the early years, and for the stories and lies they pushed to help make him president in the first place.
One thing I am looking forward to is the fact that just about anyone who has supported Trump has ended up in civil cases, bankrupt or in prison, and I for one really want to see Musk get it in the neck. He's been a blight on the web for too long.
Oh and farage. Though he's as slippery as a freshwater eel.
I predict that we wont see the major cracks appearing for at least 2 years in the US economy, to the point Trump and his cabinet of(insert expletive) will be blaming all and sundry - Biden, the federal government, traitors in industry, things we've all heard before.
By year three the only chance Trump will have to keep anything other than the most fervent support is to engage in a full blown culture war, as they make the best scapegoats, and by year 4 even the right wing media, possibly under the weight of public pressure,and the fact they can no longer hide the created problems, and will start to show Trump in a negative light, then push for a new government, republican of course, but they'll want shot of him.
Of course the right wing media will accept no blame for their sycophant nature during the early years, and for the stories and lies they pushed to help make him president in the first place.
One thing I am looking forward to is the fact that just about anyone who has supported Trump has ended up in civil cases, bankrupt or in prison, and I for one really want to see Musk get it in the neck. He's been a blight on the web for too long.
Oh and farage. Though he's as slippery as a freshwater eel.
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