Prescriptions

[Jacob]

Any unnecessary visits to a doctors to pick up prescriptions for ill people doesn't help them to get better, it's not about blaming, it's about wishing the system were better and wanting to know what's wrong with it.

This is a good example of what I mean. Complaining about having to pick up a prescription fer gawd's sake! Get a life! Do you have everything else in your life delivered? If absolutely necessary there are ways and means - health visitors etc, who will take care of these things for us. What's wrong with the system? - hardly anything at all to judge by this thread - just this weird background moaning by brainwashed people! Wittering about getting 28 pills instead of 31!!! Er - if you haven't got your head around this one just re-order EVERY 4 WEEKS rather than once a calendar month. Would a diagram help?

PS 28 divided by 7 is 4. There are exactly 4 weeks in 28 days. Easy peasy!!

 

[JakeS]

The swap should have been managed over several weeks, but the GP didn't mention that. The hours of vomiting in the car were traumatic.

My experience has consistently been - regardless of how excellent the doctors I've seen in my life have otherwise been - that the doctor tends to assume that the pharmacist will inform you of these things, and the pharmacist assumes that the doctor's already told you.

If you get any new drugs from your doctor, ask them on the spot: is there anything special I have to do with these? I'm already taking X, should I keep doing that or swap over to the Y you've just prescribed me?

Then do the same with the pharmacist. They don't like it half the time 'cause it means that the actual pharmacist has to come out from the back and talk to you instead of leaving the shop staff to deal with the customer-facing stuff, but it is their job.




I've twice now found out important information about medication I'm on well after the point I started taking it. In one case I thought that the medicine was doing absolutely nothing; turns out that nobody had thought to mention that I have to take it on an empty stomach. Once I started doing that the difference was like night and day, but I was all ready to go and bother my GP about it another time. Neither the doctor nor the pharmacist mentioned this, and it wasn't even on the included sheet, I happened to read it on Wikipedia while looking up how the drug was spelled!

 

[Dodge]

Any unnecessary visits to a doctors to pick up prescriptions for ill people doesn't help them to get better, it's not about blaming, it's about wishing the system were better and wanting to know what's wrong with it.

This is a good example of what I mean. Complaining about having to pick up a prescription fer gawd's sake! Get a life! Do you have everything else in your life delivered? If absolutely necessary there are ways and means - health visitors etc, who will take care of these things for us. What's wrong with the system? - hardly anything at all to judge by this thread - just this weird background moaning by brainwashed people! Wittering about getting 28 pills instead of 31!!! Er - if you haven't got your head around this one just re-order EVERY 4 WEEKS rather than once a calendar month. Would a diagram help?

PS 28 divided by 7 is 4. There are exactly 4 weeks in 28 days. Easy peasy!!

Lets start the quote/requote/requote/requote should we Jacob. I see you are back to your antagonistic opinionated attitude again. Didn't take long did it!!

You never did answer the question raised by another as to why you were banned from another forum did you!

#-o #-o

 

[Reggie]

Any unnecessary visits to a doctors to pick up prescriptions for ill people doesn't help them to get better, it's not about blaming, it's about wishing the system were better and wanting to know what's wrong with it.

This is a good example of what I mean. Complaining about having to pick up a prescription fer gawd's sake! Get a life! Do you have everything else in your life delivered? If absolutely necessary there are ways and means - health visitors etc, who will take care of these things for us. What's wrong with the system? - hardly anything at all to judge by this thread - just this weird background moaning by brainwashed people! Wittering about getting 28 pills instead of 31!!! Er - if you haven't got your head around this one just re-order EVERY 4 WEEKS rather than once a calendar month. Would a diagram help?

PS 28 divided by 7 is 4. There are exactly 4 weeks in 28 days. Easy peasy!!

That's also another part of the problem, people just dismissing others because it doesn't fit their view of the world. Why bother telling people to collect their prescriptions after 48 hours if you're not going to have it ready? Why offer a service to place it across at the pharmacy if you're not going to bother doing it? Why override the prescription your specialist has written out, does the GP all of a sudden know more about the condition than the specialist? My GP has zero involvement in my medical condition and the care provided for it apart from filling out a prescription.

Why should you need anyone else to arrange these things when all it takes is for the people that offer the service to actually do the job properly in the first place. They won't need a diagram, they already have it on posters so they know what they're supposed to do.

 

[Jacob]

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You never did answer the question raised by another as to why you were banned from another forum did you! ....

You tell me!
Personally I thought it was because they were a gang of prats. Could be another reason but I can't say I'm bothered. :lol: :lol:

 

[Dodge]

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You never did answer the question raised by another as to why you were banned from another forum did you! ....

You tell me!
Personally I thought it was because they were a gang of prats. Could be another reason but I can't say I'm bothered. :lol: :lol:

Pot/Kettle!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[Harbo]

Oh I thought they were your friends - I thought they started that Forum 'cause you had been banned from here and felt sorry for you?

 

[Jacob]

Any unnecessary visits to a doctors to pick up prescriptions for ill people doesn't help them to get better, it's not about blaming, it's about wishing the system were better and wanting to know what's wrong with it.

This is a good example of what I mean. Complaining about having to pick up a prescription fer gawd's sake! Get a life! Do you have everything else in your life delivered? If absolutely necessary there are ways and means - health visitors etc, who will take care of these things for us. What's wrong with the system? - hardly anything at all to judge by this thread - just this weird background moaning by brainwashed people! Wittering about getting 28 pills instead of 31!!! Er - if you haven't got your head around this one just re-order EVERY 4 WEEKS rather than once a calendar month. Would a diagram help?

PS 28 divided by 7 is 4. There are exactly 4 weeks in 28 days. Easy peasy!!

That's also another part of the problem, people just dismissing others because it doesn't fit their view of the world. Why bother telling people to collect their prescriptions after 48 hours if you're not going to have it ready? Why offer a service to place it across at the pharmacy if you're not going to bother doing it? Why override the prescription your specialist has written out, does the GP all of a sudden know more about the condition than the specialist? My GP has zero involvement in my medical condition and the care provided for it apart from filling out a prescription.

Why should you need anyone else to arrange these things when all it takes is for the people that offer the service to actually do the job properly in the first place. They won't need a diagram, they already have it on posters so they know what they're supposed to do.

Why not be grateful for the fairly excellent service we all get instead of finding fault in tiny details as thought the whole system has failed? Do you really imagine it will work better when it has been fragmented and privatised? We are going to miss it when it's gone.

 

[Phil Pascoe]

fairly excellent?

 

[Jacob]

fairly excellent?

Utterly excellent compared to the equivalents around the world. Is there a better free NHS anywhere else? If so what are they doing which we don't? Genuine question here, not rhetorical - I don't know the answer.

 

[Phil Pascoe]

That wasn't what I meant - "fairly excellent" is a bit like "a bit pregnant" it's either excellent or not. But as to your point, other countries have systems that work, and NONE of them have ever seen the need to copy ours.

 

[Reggie]

Jacob,I'm grateful for the stuff they do well, I'm not grateful for stuff that they don't do that they're apparently paid for, who would be?

 

[Eric The Viking]

Jacob,

They've nearly killed me twice. In both cases the failures were process related.

There's no point in making a fuss, although I probably could have, but they were things that might have been completely avoided, and I'd like others not to be in the same situation.

There's also the not-so-small issue of how efficiently public funds are spent.

E.

 

[Flynnwood]

Jacob,

They've nearly killed me twice. In both cases the failures were process related.

There's no point in making a fuss, although I probably could have, but they were things that might have been completely avoided, and I'd like others not to be in the same situation.

E.

Improvement / higher quality is a 'change for the better'.

You can't have improvement without change.

You really should 'make a fuss', and draw their attention (at the highest level you can push to/access) in the shortcomings in the process that is operational at the local postcode level.

Start with the CEO office and push hard.

 

[Eric The Viking]

In both cases the (different) people that made the mistakes know and are chastened and highly unlikely to do it again. Processes have been changed, but there was no animosity - it wasn't necessary.

If I thought there were management issues, I'd have made a very big fuss indeed. I wasn't a hospital in-patient in either case.

E.

 

[Lons]

Utterly excellent compared to the equivalents around the world. Is there a better free NHS anywhere else? If so what are they doing which we don't? Genuine question here, not rhetorical - I don't know the answer.

It isn't FREE. Every working person (and a lot of pensioners) have paid and are still paying for it.

It's a sick service now (no pun intended) with huge amounts of waste, massive inefficiencies and very top heavy management to front line staff bias. With no less than 7 of my immediate family directly involved with the NHS as well as a number of very close friends and apart from the usual patient experiences, I see and hear about a lot of the problems.

When it's good it can be very good indeed but the direct opposite is also the case and I'm not sure that the private route is the answer either. What is certain is that it can't be sustained and it's only frightened politicians that keep it alive in its current format.

Bob

 

[AndyT]

Where the Electronic Prescription Service is available (most places now but not all) one of the extra benefits it brings is that people with long term conditions and many drugs can have the dispensing quantities and dates harmonised. This avoids problems of different pills running out at different times. It can save a lot of time for the patient especially if they are in a rural area and have to travel to the pharmacy.
So if you want that, ask your pharmacist. If they don't understand, nominate a different pharmacy where they do understand it. They are private businesses supposedly competing for an income from the public purse. Some are much less efficient than they should be.

 

[Reggie]

About that EPS, they say it's a 48hr turn around, I left mine 96hrs because I know they never meet that target, I put it in on the monday, it still hadn't even been signed by the doctor by Friday afternoon, I always put my repeat prescription request in with a weeks worth of tablets left because it is crucial that I don't miss any of my tablets. These services aren't run as a convenience, they are for helping patients to get better, yes, there are services where you can have your tablets delivered, some of us with chronic illnesses don't need to pass that burden onto another service, we just need the EPS service to work more efficiently and not take 5 days to fail to get a signature.

 

[Harbo]

Sounds like you have a local problem - complain to your Primary Care Organisation.

Rod

 

[Eric The Viking]

Sounds like you have a local problem - complain to your Primary Care Organisation.

Primary Care Trusts are defunct now, thanks to yet another re-org. I've looked quickly, and it's not clear to me who now has oversight of primary care, except in a general sense at a national level.

Royal College of GPs? If so it'll be interesting, as not all GPs are members. I believe it's now mandatory, but it wasn't when my wife qualified, so she didn't join (it's cheaper to just do the exams, which she does occasionally, as an external candidate).

I expect someone who knows will be along in a minute...

E.