Police Commissioner

[Benchwayze]

Straight into the arms of the Bobby on the adjoining beat! :wink: But maybe you would be one of the clever ones ... 8)

So not just more bobbies on the beat but a policeman on every corner? Sounds a little bit like a policed state to me ;-)

Sir Robert Peel dreamt up the idea because street crime was reaching alarming proportions. At the time the Bobby on the beat had a dramatic effect on figures. Suddenly the criminals didn't feel safe. So maybe it doesn't need a study. It's just the sense of feeling safe or feeling under threat. From both sides of the fence.

Think you'll find that most street crime and small scale theft is committed by people with substance abuse problems, all they can think about is where to get there next fix, they don't care about beat bobbies.

Personally I think any commissioner that panders to the "More Bobbies the Beat" crowd won't be doing their job properly.

Then it's safe to assume (one up to you) :wink: that you won't be complaining about lack of Police presence, if and when your house gets burgled. Good, it will make a pleasant change. =D>

Bye Bye. :-"

 

[o0dunk0o]

Then it's safe to presume that you won't be complaining about lack of Police presence, if and when your house gets burgled

Yes it is very safe to assume that as it's quite obvious that beat bobbies don't prevent burglaries.

If I was burgled I'd rather police resources were spent on scene of crime officers and detectives to catch the scrotes that do the burgalries rather than an ineffective policy just to make Daily Mail readers happy ;-)

 

[Benchwayze]

Then it's safe to presume that you won't be complaining about lack of Police presence, if and when your house gets burgled

Yes it is very safe to assume that as it's quite obvious that beat bobbies don't prevent burglaries.

If I was burgled I'd rather police resources were spent on scene of crime officers and detectives to catch the scrotes that do the burgalries rather than an ineffective policy just to make Daily Mail readers happy ;-)

You clearly have no idea of the legal definition of the lawful duties of a Police Officer. Take it from me that the apprehension of offenders is way down on the list. The preservation of life and property are premium, and you don't satisfy those demands by sitting on your jacksie in the Police Station. Nor do you achieve anything by analysing statistics, to see if you can set up a new, 'whizz-bang' squad to tackle a problem that you should have prevented in the first instance.

Also, I can promise you, if you suffer a burglary, (Not a burgalry) when you see what is left of your treasured belongings, scattered around your house; furniture smashed, human excrement on your bed, pools of urine in the corners, and worse, then you WILL be criticising the Police for not preventing it.

I hope it doesn't happen to you, but if it does, I'd stake money that whilst you will hope the Police catch the Pineapples, you will also be singing another tune. I.e., why didn't they stop this! I have heard it far to often, not to know it's true.

Should they manage to make an arrest, they then have to secure a conviction. Not always a given. If they manage that, then any 'closure' you'll get won't always do it. You will remember what happened to you for a long, long time; probably for the rest of your life. The sense of violation is palpable, and you will probably want to move house. Mark my words.

Now let it drop, because I have no intention of carrying on this discussion with someone who clearly believes he/she knows the meaning of Life, the Universe and everything else.

Oh and I almost forgot. I prevented quite a few burglaries in my time. Most of my 'collars' were 'attempted burglaries.' I admit one or two might have gotten away had I not had my dog, but there you go. Nobody's perfick! :-"

 

[Eric The Viking]

+1 John!

Our Chief Constable has just resigned. He won't be missed.

Several police people I know have made it quite clear how much they resent recent managerial changes making them LESS efficient and LESS effective. Either the CC didn't know what his middle management were doing, or he supported them.

Another good example is when he made the Neighbourhood watch coordinator redundant. The post cost almost nothing in comparison to things like the police chopper, but NW was growing in effectiveness. It was stupid and disruptive posturing, IMHO.

We've got a good and tough independent commissioner elected here. The political parties were somewhat peeved. Time will tell, but she's now got to appoint the new CC, so that's one big difference she can make already.

 

[Benchwayze]

Hi Eric,

My main objection to the commissioner idea is my belief that a Democracy shouldn't give one person too much power.
Maybe I am Utopian!

The previous set-up was a Police Authority, which was a body of people. That some of these people were mere status seekers, I know, so clearly something needed to change. Now of course any 'status seeker' who gets elected will also have a nice fat salary. I do wonder how many candidates there would have been had the post been non-remunerative.

However, despite some commissioners with political axes to grind, I will wait to see how things go in my neck of the woods, before I admit my misgivings are groundless.