new Axminster spiral cutter portable thicknesser
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Bristol_Rob
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Good find, and you are right. I think they are the same machine.
Good to see TCT cutters can be used.
I'd be interested to see if Axminsters is a true spiral cutter. As this video clearly shows that their machine has straight inline cutters.
There are nice benefits for spiral.
But maybe Axminsters machine is merely trying to hit a price point rather than offer 'best in class'
We will see.
I'm gonna be interested to see a video run down when someone get their hands on one.
clogs
just can't decide
I wouldnt be suprised that the blade inserts are something special to Axy.......
u need universal inserts that already exsist to get a fair price.......
as for Felder inserts, are they made in Germany or a rebadged Chinese import.......?
no prob with well made Chinese stuff.......
u need universal inserts that already exsist to get a fair price.......
as for Felder inserts, are they made in Germany or a rebadged Chinese import.......?
no prob with well made Chinese stuff.......
No, they're high quality forks, just very good bargains. I cant resist a bargain.
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Sorry, wasnt trying to be negative towards you. Sorry if it seemed that way. Im just trying to say all cutters usually are hss.
But i agree completely, although maybe if they were tct the price would be a bit more and hss was ax's way of keeping the price down.
Recky33
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Just phoned Axminster and asked, looks like it's straight inline cutters, same as the Carbatec, so same machine rebadged
And I've done it again.
But you are not getting a bargain in reality, you can only ride one bike and that bike has just one front wheel and therefore one set of forks so any more are not really needed and therefore even at a reduced cost you would have saved more not buying them. This is like people who think they have more than two feet and need fifty pairs of shoes with height increments from 0 to 150mm in 5mm increments and in every conceivable colour.
They are making a false claim by saying
when the manual clearly shows the cutters are in line and therefore not a true spiral cutter block. Maybe they are bending the facts by having multiple rows of these cutters where the offset between rows gives something along the lines of a spiral cutter block. Also 26 cutters is odd, does this mean you get two rows of 5 cutters and 4 rows of 4 cutters !
Just to show Axminster does know what a spiral block looks like then this is on their site
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Sachakins
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At least, as they have to stagger the cutters, else all edges would align, an leave Groove in wood.
I think they should use the term, "... multi offset cutter block .."
As it certainly doesn't look like any spiral/shellix cutter block I've seen.
J-G
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It might even be more accurate to call it a 'Helical' block rather than 'Spiral'.
'Spiral' would generally be interpreted as the groves are machined along the length at a high helix angle, 'Helical' would suggest a low helix angle without alluding to what is a true spiral block.
Well actually I need 2 for the ebike. It usually takes up to a fortnight for a company to service the fork, and as the ebike is my only form of transport from general commuting, to shopping to just getting out for a ride about, sending off the fork means i would either have zero transport, or replace it with another fork is a swop about type of set up , which is what the 2nd fork is for.
That is for an Ebike, which i need due to health concerns.
Now being an Ebike, theres always a chance the motor or battery might develop an issue and need to go into the shop to sort/repair. That process can take up to a couple of months. So in effect I need a 2nd bike to be kept as a spare for that eventuality.
Now im pretty sure you have a spare wheel in the back of your car/van, because if you didn't, you'd be off the road for as long as it took to repair/replace the wheel on your transport. This is the reason all cars carry a spare.
And Im also sure were your car/van to develop a more serious issue, say engine or gearbox problems, you would get a hire car You might even have more than a single car in your household.
And that being the case, either renting or having a 2nd car is no different to me having a 2nd bike.
So at the very least im going to need 3 forks. Ebike and spare, and one on the spare bike.
How many chisels do you own ? In truth you only really need about 4, but I doubt you only have 4
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Excuses !!!
Don't mention chiesels, I have three and three more not very good since I tried to sharpen them . I hate chiesels but find I need them.
6 ??? I have over 40 and I'm the poor cousin compared to some on here.
In fact there was a cabinetmaker who shifted premises and i was working in the building when he arrived. He had at least 5 tea chests full of bevel edged, carving and turning chisels
I have over 40 and I'm the poor cousin compared to some on here. In fact there was a cabinetmaker who shifted premises and i was working in the building when he arrived. He had at least 5 tea chests full of bevel edged, carving and turning chisels
I would be happy with just a few good sharp ones.
Bit out of touch there, nearly all modern cars do not have spare wheels, but run flat tyres which are the normal fitting, I think its only Audi that still have a spare wheel.
Sachakins
The most wasted of days is one without woodwork
And those without run flats have a reinflation kit of a liquid sealer and small compressor.
I've not had a spare in any car for about 7 years now, well not counting the one around my waist.
Against_The_Grain
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They do run quieter, but it’s often found that they actually require more power than traditional straight knife cutterblocks for the same depth of cut, particularly with helical cutters that have much more friction from the shearing acting upon the cutters. People who have retrofitted cutters to machines have found they need to also uprate the drive motor to compensate for the extra load to keep up.
Doug B
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A true spiral block doesn’t use more power in fact it can use 30% less power, a shearing cut is way more efficient than a straight on cut this is why Wadkin made blocks that held the solid knife at a slight angle across the block & also why I was taught when surface planing on a machine to slight angle the timber into the straight blade.
Here it is from Kendal tools just one example from a very quick google search On spiral blocks.
Here it is from Kendal tools just one example from a very quick google search On spiral blocks.
That is why the french guillotine had an angled cutting edge, rather than try a single cut across the entire cutting face of the blade it spread the cut across the blade as it cut through so requiring less effort.
A spiral cutter block cuts in the same way as a conventional single blade except it does it bit by bit and not in one so in theory less effort is needed. The helical block will also cut bit by bit but each cut is a side to side shear like the guillotine and to get this each cutter is slightly angled to the plane of the cutter block.
Spiral blocks seem to be more common than helical, is this down to cost or that the extra cost involved with a helical block is not justified ?
A spiral cutter block cuts in the same way as a conventional single blade except it does it bit by bit and not in one so in theory less effort is needed. The helical block will also cut bit by bit but each cut is a side to side shear like the guillotine and to get this each cutter is slightly angled to the plane of the cutter block.
Spiral blocks seem to be more common than helical, is this down to cost or that the extra cost involved with a helical block is not justified ?
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