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Does anyone have any thoughts on the new axminster AWHBS bandsaw range?

http://www.axminster.co.uk/category-Bandsaws-813017.htm


I'm flexible on cost 400-800 ish and have been looking at the basato 4 and record 350s but am not convinced. Axminster seems to be a good choice but is the new range comparable to the old?

Thanks,
turnpike
 
I looked at these saws ... wasn't convinced about the Record ... after lots of looking I have a Basato 4 on order, expecting delivery anytime ... well reviewed and the demo machine I'd looked at impressed ...
 
I have just bought the AWHBS310N I don't have any previous experience of bandsaws but I am happy with it, and a friend of mine who has had bandsaws for years came and set it up for me and he said it was a nice bit of kit.
 
thanks. I'm thinking I might go for something tried and tested. These new axminster bandsaws might well turn out to be great but I'll wait and see :)

I see a lot of good reviews for the axminster plus 4300 but does anyone have the Axminster Plus AP3501B3 ?
 
I doubt whether anyone will yet own one of those bandsaws as they have literally just been added to the range. Saying that, I believe Mike Garnham owns and old Axminster BS350 - it's so old that it's blue :D - he seems very happy with it and uses it for all-sorts of work as he doesn't own a table saw.

What sort of work are you intending to do? With the trade rating, these saws should be fine for general bandsaw work (shaping, ripping) and maybe the odd bit of deep-ripping and veneer-cutting. If you were buying a saw to do a lot of deep-ripping then I would look at the industrial range - or, better yet, a resaw!! :twisted:

I generally like the look of Record's bandsaws. I think they're well finished and they generally have good features. These new Axminster saws also have some good features - including a quick-release tension lever and a half-decent-looking fence (which looks easier to remove than the Record), to name two. I'd like to find out whether the table tilts on a rack and pinion mechanism (I think the Record ones do?).

There's only one feature I would really liked to have seen and that's the slot in the table going along the other axis - that way, you can change a blade without having to remove the front fence rail. This only seems to feature on the larger Axminster and Jet saws but, it's not the end of the world. :)

EDIT - sorry, I was looking as the BS400 model (again! :oops:). This one has the quick-release tension lever but I don't think it's on the BS350?
 
Hi Olly.

I plan to do a little bit of resawing. Right now I only have one or two things I need to resaw but if I had a capable bandsaw I can see me doing it more. I also want to be able to make my own curved table/chair pieces etc Veneers would be fun but I have no real need for it.

Mostly I just want to see if I prefer using a bandsaw to my triton workcentre table saw for most jobs. I imagine it might mean less moving things around every time I want to rip something.

I don't want to buy a bandsaw and then find I want to upgrade it in a year or so. I'm sure I don't need industrial but then if there's 100-200 pounds in it I might be tempted provided it isn't a huge monster of a saw.

I like the idea of having it on wheels in case I need to move it a metre or so. I'm hoping it makes less noise than my table saw too.

Happy New Year :)
 
To be fair to Record, they have taken on board some of the criticism in recent years and revised the design of their saws - for instance, where the tensioning rods used to be M8 and the thread would strip too easily, they not fit M10 threaded rods, and the saws are all the better for it. I touched on this in my previous post and it is a recurring 'flaw' in the design of the Record Power bandsaws - if you want to remove the fence from the table then, I believe (based on the comments of others) that you would also have to remove the cylindrical fence rail, which is bolted to the table. I don't doubt the quality of their fences but, the ones Axminster supply (which is also their standard after market upgrade model) can't be removed and lifted off easily without having to touch the rail. On the Record, you can drop the fence down in to the gap between the table and frame but that's not always enough, depending on what you're intending to cut.

And of course, this is an issue of great importance when you're looking to use your saw for ripping and you don't own a table saw. :)

With resawing, fitting a sharp, good quality blade will also help, regardless of what size your saw is. The bigger the motor, the better. If a bandsaw can fit 200mm below the guides then, that doesn't necessarily mean the motor is up to cutting that depth, even with a coarse skip-toothed blade. You're probably looking at 50mm or so less than this (150mm).

The trick is to look at the one you 'think' you need and then, buy the next one up in the range, for the extra capacity! :wink:

I've been using a 300mm saw (SIP 01486) for the past couple of years. It's been fine for general work but, as this is my predominant ripping saw (no table saw. 8)), I would like something a bit 'bigger', with more features and a better finish all round - the table surface is quite rough, which doesn't always help the timber to slide smoothly. Record's saws have a beautifully smooth, friction-free finish. I'm hoping these new APTC saws are similar but, I will have to have a look some time...

Another EDIT to add:

There's no question that most bandsaws will run almost silently compared to your Triton setup, which I assume uses a noisy brush-motored circular saw of some kind. Under load (when the saw's cutting), the blade is pushed back against the thrust bearing which makes a kind of squealing noise. That's probably the worst you going to get, noise-wise, from a bandsaw. Unless you went for one of those big old Wadkins with the noisy motors... :D
 
So are you saying both the record and axminster models have fence removal issues when wanting to do a lot of ripping?

The Axminster AWHBS400N looks great on paper.

The only thing I've decided so far is I want something which runs on 13amp and has a depth of cut 250mm or better.
 
No. Sorry, it is only the Record Power machines that have this issue. Fences on the Axminster saws can be removed easily, without having to touch the guide rail. I do think the Record fence looks to be of a better build quality but, if it turned out that the Axminster one did have little adjustment in its design then, I'd probably build an MDF sub-fence to fit over it.
 
I bought the SBS, like the AWHBS350N and after setting up it cuts very accurately,
the fence is spot on.Well pleased.
 
The axminster model I'm interested in has been out of stock for a while now. I'm guessing they've never been in stock yet.

Can anyone recommend the Mobile Base?
 
I can recommend those mobile bases (they were about £6 cheaper when I bought mine) as I've had one fitted to my 150kg planer/thicknesser for over two-years. Like most bases, they would work best on a level floor. But, you can easily adjust the feet. Because my floor's all over the place, I often have to lock them off with only one of the brakes on. This is still fine as the weight of the machine means it isn't going anywhere. :)
 
andycktm":3bljvfk3 said:
I bought the SBS, like the AWHBS350N and after setting up it cuts very accurately,
the fence is spot on.Well pleased.

Hi Andy, Ive also been looking at the AWHBS350N - have you used the older SBS model for any resawing? Did it cope?

It may be a little underpowered at 750W, but on the US forums alot of people are resawing using their 14" Deltas, with a similar spec.
 
The Record 350 fence is removed by undoing the two bolts holding the ally part and sliding it off the rail clamp. The rail clamp can then be removed from the rail.
 
I can't comment on any of those machines but high up on my list of criteria (having first determined realistically what dept of resawing I might want to do which then drives blade tpi and blade width) are :

1) how easy is it to change the blade

2) can I get sufficient tension (reliably and without shearing anything off because it's too weak) on the blade

3) how easy is it to get the table 90 degrees to the blade

4) how easy is it to adjust the table laterally so that the blade is cutting square to the fence.

If (2) (3) and (4) are good then that encourages you to do (1) which in turn means the right blade for the job rather than struggling and ending up with a duff cut.



Roger
 
Thanks for that, Shultzy. :)

Their new BS400 model has caught my eye but I'm now also looking at the Startrite range :roll:, purely because they have slots in the side of the table, meaning you don't have to touch the fence or rail when changing blades. That is very important to me as I would be using this saw for ripping as well as shaping, which could require frequent blade-changing. The Startrite fences look to be of the same robust design as the larger Record Power saws, which I prefer to the Axminster ones.
 
I'm looking at them also mate, be aware tho that although there are some good deals to be had on second hand startrites they are largely three phase so you need to budget for an inverter also

also they are big old lumps which might not fit too well in a single garage workshop
 
A good blade and a well tuned machine can make up for a lack of motor power. As can the skill and preparation. My school Axminster saw is still rubbish though.
 
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