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Baldhead":18zrhm0h said:
MMUK":18zrhm0h said:
If it involves the wife and a pot of Nutella, I don't think I want to know ;)
Is it ok to tell if it involves your wife and a pot of Nutella :lol: :lol: :lol:

Baldhead

If that's the case, I need to find another wife cuz I'm sure as hell not getting the Nutella treatment :lol:
 
Ive never been done speeding, i sat at 55 in my camper van... if i need to be somewhere in a hurry i set off in good time.
 
I run a Boxer van, a Berlingo car a Kawasaki Motorbike.
I have frequently driven between 1 and 4 hundred miles a day to work, sometimes daily.
I have, over the years had some close"calls" but have been lucky and survived, up to now, untouched.
Whatever you say speed kills and I would not like to face any relatives having been driving like a Pratt and killed their Son, daughter or family.
Regards Rodders
 
Speed kills.......OK, so let's introduce a blanket limit of 20MPH everywhere.......No one dies, simple......

Hang on, 20mph is speed, surely? so is 30mph....? What you meant to say was INAPPROPRIATE speed kills wasn't it? If you speeding INAPPROPRIATELY, then you are indeed, driving like a pratt........

Why does no one who is against "SPEEDING" seem able to understand this simple point????????
 
It's not speed that kills. It's the idiot who thinks he's Sebastian Vettel but hasn't in reality got a clue or the ability (both physical and mental) to drive to that sort of standard. Speed related accidents are 99.9% of the time down to human error, hence my point.
 
MMUK":1qk3wr2r said:
It's not speed that kills. .....
Yes it often is. Even if it's not the cause, the consequences are worse as the speed is higher.
 
I think we all know that it's the sudden deceleration that does the damage. Speed by itself actually makes you live longer, at least it does when you approach the speed of light. So it won't affect me much.
 
Inappropriate speed is any speed that is unsafe and always any speed above the legal limit for the location. Almost all drivers exceed the limit, even if only occasionally, because they believe they can do it safely and get away with it. Strangely, there are thousands of accidents. It can't be left to individuals to decide. We need enforced limits with more speed cameras. The 85 mph motorway already discussed might be a good place for them.

Jacob is right, speed does kill. Some urban areas are moving towards default 20 mph zones, and it's about time. A good driver keeps within the limit.
 
John Brown":3jajcdal said:
I think we all know that it's the sudden deceleration that does the damage. Speed by itself actually makes you live longer, at least it does when you approach the speed of light. So it won't affect me much.
Sudden deceleration. :shock: That puts a completely new light on it.
 
Finial":1d1k7gm5 said:
Inappropriate speed is any speed that is unsafe and always any speed above the legal limit for the location.

Breaking the speed limit may be inappropriate but it's not always unsafe to do so (not that I'm defending breaking the speed limit, just stating fact).

Also, whilst I can see your point about the 20mph limits, until there is a vast improvement in the standard of driving in the UK, and letting less idiots pass their tests, then lowering speed limits won't make much difference to the accident rate.
 
MMUK":3stks9pd said:
..... lowering speed limits won't make much difference to the accident rate.
It makes a huge difference. That's the whole point.
 
Jacob":1r8xzhd2 said:
MMUK":1r8xzhd2 said:
..... lowering speed limits won't make much difference to the accident rate.
It makes a huge difference. That's the whole point.

Are you deliberately taking my comment out of context or are you just thick? Read the WHOLE statement again :roll:
 
John Brown":16d7zrum said:
I think we all know that it's the sudden deceleration that does the damage.

For the traveller you may be correct, but, for the victim, I think you will find that it is the sudden ACceleration that does the damage. Or more accurately the application of the force that causes the acceleration. Perhaps it its the transfer of momentum?
John Brown":16d7zrum said:
Speed by itself actually makes you live longer, at least it does when you approach the speed of light. So it won't affect me much.
:lol: :lol:
If you are going to talk about such high speeds that you need to think about relativistic effects then I think that the term 'speed' becomes irrelevant, since you cannot rely on any single static reference frame. Hmmm, "No officer, I was travelling towards you at only thirty miles an hour - you and your speed camera were traveling towards me at twenty miles an hour making a total of fifty......."

I am sure that that is going to work. Can someone try that and report back?
 
"For the traveller you may be correct, but, for the victim, I think you will find that it is the sudden ACceleration that does the damage. Or more accurately the application of the force that causes the acceleration. Perhaps it is the transfer of momentum?"
Indeed. I stand corrected. Although it's all relative. It's , as you rightly point out, difficult to establish a frame of reference on a revolving, orbiting planet. Etc. Maybe we could say it's the sudden change in inertia?
 
MMUK":1i1nhalz said:
Jacob":1i1nhalz said:
MMUK":1i1nhalz said:
..... lowering speed limits won't make much difference to the accident rate.
It makes a huge difference. That's the whole point.

Are you deliberately taking my comment out of context or are you just thick? Read the WHOLE statement again :roll:
1
It WILL make a huge difference to the accident rate because slow speeds give more reaction time and the possibility of avoiding accidents entirely.
2
It WILL also make a huge difference to the accident rate (if the outcomes of accidents are factored in e.g. numbers of deaths) as there will be more serious consequences with higher speed.
3
YOU are just thick!

I suppose this is what draws one to these mad threads - people calmly gabbling astonishing and unbelievable nonsense.

Can we have a flat earth thread? :lol: :lol:
 
Jacob, wind your neck in and read my statement fully please, you still have my comment completely out of context. :roll: I said:

UNTIL THE STANDARD OF DRIVING IMPROVES THEN LOWERING SPEED LIMITS WILL MAKE LITTLE DIFFERENCE

Which bit of that was difficult to understand? There's no point banging on about reaction times, that in itself makes no difference when someone steps out from behind a car or van right into your path. Another point is people aren't trained to look and therefore they don't anticipate far enough in advance.

So is that a bit clearer for you sweety pie? Or am I asking too much of your narrow minded brain? Maybe an adult level of intelligence is farther beyond you than I realised. Never mind, with careful and patient tuition, maybe one day you can join the ranks of the real adults? :wink:
 
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