Just bought a Domino...

[Ali]

For anyone thinking of buying a Domino, now is a good time. There seems to be some february deal where they throw in the systainer full of dominos and extra bits in for free as well as competitive prices. I thought I got a good deal last week but just realised I paid about £150 more for the extras (compared to prices at Toolfest.co.uk). You'd save even more if you have a voucher.

 

[marcros]

For anyone thinking of buying a Domino, now is a good time. There seems to be some february deal where they throw in the systainer full of dominos and extra bits in for free as well as competitive prices. I thought I got a good deal last week but just realised I paid about £150 more for the extras (compared to prices at Toolfest.co.uk). You'd save even more if you have a voucher.

yep, just done exactly that. £550 (+ voucher) for the domino, cross stop, trim stop and sustainer of biscuits and cutters. I wondered if I had missed the best deals, and had decided to wait for now, but that offer seemed too good to refuse.

 

[MMUK]

For anyone thinking of buying a Domino, now is a good time. There seems to be some february deal where they throw in the systainer full of dominos and extra bits in for free as well as competitive prices. I thought I got a good deal last week but just realised I paid about £150 more for the extras (compared to prices at Toolfest.co.uk). You'd save even more if you have a voucher.

yep, just done exactly that. £550 (+ voucher) for the domino, cross stop, trim stop and sustainer of biscuits and cutters. I wondered if I had missed the best deals, and had decided to wait for now, but that offer seemed too good to refuse.

How much? :shock:

My biscuit jointer cost me £20 and 200 biscuits for under £5. Think I'll stick with that for now and proper mortice/tenon joints for the big stuff.

 

[marcros]

For anyone thinking of buying a Domino, now is a good time. There seems to be some february deal where they throw in the systainer full of dominos and extra bits in for free as well as competitive prices. I thought I got a good deal last week but just realised I paid about £150 more for the extras (compared to prices at Toolfest.co.uk). You'd save even more if you have a voucher.

yep, just done exactly that. £550 (+ voucher) for the domino, cross stop, trim stop and sustainer of biscuits and cutters. I wondered if I had missed the best deals, and had decided to wait for now, but that offer seemed too good to refuse.

How much? :shock:

My biscuit jointer cost me £20 and 200 biscuits for under £5. Think I'll stick with that for now and proper mortice/tenon joints for the big stuff.

i know. you said

 

[Racers]

I made 11 shaker doors (most different sizes) in a day with a domino, not bad for working in a cramped garage.

I borrowed it and have lusted after one since I gave it back.

They are far more flexible then a morticer and far faster.

Pete

 

[Benchwayze]

Well done Custard! All the pros and cons, set out in an unbiased manner. But I guess, we couldn't expect Festool to do all this in their sales literature.

 

[chippy1970]

For anyone thinking of buying a Domino, now is a good time. There seems to be some february deal where they throw in the systainer full of dominos and extra bits in for free as well as competitive prices. I thought I got a good deal last week but just realised I paid about £150 more for the extras (compared to prices at Toolfest.co.uk). You'd save even more if you have a voucher.

You know you have 15 days to return it if you did want to buy it again at a better price. A little bit of messing about but it's an option

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[Ali]

Didn't realise that, but will take this one on the chin for now. I am starting to think whether or not to push the boat out and go for the XL this month too. Have noticed a fair few Domino users end up having both machines, does anyone here? Or is it just too much of a luxury? I am a one man band so rely on technology to do things accurately and quickly

 

[shed9]

Didn't realise that, but will take this one on the chin for now. I am starting to think whether or not to push the boat out and go for the XL this month too. Have noticed a fair few Domino users end up having both machines, does anyone here? Or is it just too much of a luxury? I am a one man band so rely on technology to do things accurately and quickly

IMO their are two reasons for wanting or needing both machines;

1.) To access the full range of cutter sizes across both machines.
2.) The difference in weight and subsequent flexibility.

You can circumnavigate point 1 by acquiring the RTS-500 adapter from Seneca (see earlier comments in thread). This will allow you to use the Domino 500 and 700 cutters in the 700 machine.

As for point 2, I have ran with a 700 and RTS-500 adapter on all sizes of stock and whilst I really have no problem in the weight of the 700 and will quite happily run it, I can see an argument for the 500 as well. It doesn't effect me as I only do small runs and prototyping, but if I was using the Domino for long periods of time I could see me buying a 500 as well.

With the deals around at the moment, its a perfect time to buy both if the need (or want) is there.

My only concern is the reasoning for the price cuts, are we due a new Domino???

 

[Random Orbital Bob]

Didn't realise that, but will take this one on the chin for now. I am starting to think whether or not to push the boat out and go for the XL this month too. Have noticed a fair few Domino users end up having both machines, does anyone here? Or is it just too much of a luxury? I am a one man band so rely on technology to do things accurately and quickly

IMO their are two reasons for wanting or needing both machines;

1.) To access the full range of cutter sizes across both machines.
2.) The difference in weight and subsequent flexibility.

You can circumnavigate point 1 by acquiring the RTS-500 adapter from Seneca (see earlier comments in thread). This will allow you to use the Domino 500 and 700 cutters in the 700 machine.

As for point 2, I have ran with a 700 and RTS-500 adapter on all sizes of stock and whilst I really have no problem in the weight of the 700 and will quite happily run it, I can see an argument for the 500 as well. It doesn't effect me as I only do small runs and prototyping, but if I was using the Domino for long periods of time I could see me buying a 500 as well.

With the deals around at the moment, its a perfect time to buy both if the need (or want) is there.

My only concern is the reasoning for the price cuts, are we due a new Domino???

That's a bit of a sore point with me because when I bought my 500 one of the jobs I really wanted it for was door making. I appreciate its relative small tenon sizes wouldn't handle an oak front door but for smaller, lighter wardrobe style doors I had a number of projects it would be great for. I closely examined its specs before I jumped because clearly that's a lot of money to make a mistake on! Bought it...loved it and then....3 months later the 700 got released. Not a word of promotion from Festool to say its coming...just BOOM here it is. So all you suckers that just bought the 500....on yer go again and get the big Daddy! Alright perhaps that's a little unfair but its pretty obvious they didn't drip feed any pre-release promotional material so as to avoid cannibalising their own 500 revenues and perhaps to prevent the competition stealing a march on them. That very seriously miffed me because I would have chosen the 700. With hindsight I wish Festool had extended an offer which allowed new 500 purchasers (say within 3-6 months) to pay a small upgrade fee to "chop in" their 500 for a 700. OK they may have lost a bit of revenue but they sure would have kept their customers happy. But they don't think like that, they're so blinkin well in love with their own SYS- everything and how smug and clever their technology is sometimes they forget that its people that buy the stuff!! Rant over. So choose carefully and if you think you'll need to do big stuff with deep mortises get the 700 and buy the Seneca backgrade to suck up the 500 cutters. Save yourself £600. Or..as the last poster said...hang on because if its all gone quiet there might be some hybrid coming....you'll never know till its arrived!!

 

[shed9]

I can see how that hurt RO-Bob, but to be fair that element of product development is true in all manner of technology from cars to fridges, not just power tools. The thing is I know people who wait until 'the next thing' comes out and in reality never buy 'the thing' at all.

I agree that the way Festool release a new product is going to sting a lot of people who buy the previous model in that immediate timeframe but again, this is not dissimilar to other product markets. I'm not sure I would tag Festool as a none customer centric organisation, I think they understand their customer and deal with them effectively. I would say in their defence that the 500 and 700 Domino's are different beasts.
There is also the argument that if they released the 700, followed by the 500 there would be equal unrest from people who would have preferred the smaller model - they can't win in that scenario.

That all said, I feel your pain in your situation...

 

[Random Orbital Bob]

Yessshhhhh you're probably right Only probably mind

 

[Benchwayze]

I am wondering if I bought the large Domino, would I ever use the small one again?
Using the small domino I suppose, with a bit of fiddling, I could double up on tenon thickness and width. So as far as I see, the only advantage for the 'big-boy' is the depth of cut that the larger model has. (Or will the XL not cut smaller tenons?)

 

[Random Orbital Bob]

Yeah but that depth advantage is extremely useful in large joints (like doors). As I understand it, if you buy the Seneca backwards compatibility kit for the 700...it enables it to use all the 500 cutters. That means a 700 can do all its usual big stuff as well as everything the 500 does. Thus rendering the 500 redundant except for one thing. The 500 is of course smaller and lighter so for someone whose work predominates with 500 sized mortises, it would be a bit bulky and unwieldy to use the 700 all the time. Sort of like using a Yankee in pump mode to undo a watch screw!

 

[carlb40]

Yeah but that depth advantage is extremely useful in large joints (like doors). As I understand it, if you buy the Seneca backwards compatibility kit for the 700...it enables it to use all the 500 cutters. That means a 700 can do all its usual big stuff as well as everything the 500 does. Thus rendering the 500 redundant except for one thing. The 500 is of course smaller and lighter so for someone whose work predominates with 500 sized mortises, it would be a bit bulky and unwieldy to use the 700 all the time. Sort of like using a Yankee in pump mode to undo a watch screw!

I find my impact driver quicker for that :mrgreen:

 

[Random Orbital Bob]

LOL...I tore open a whopping piece of inch mdf yesterday with my impact because I couldn't be bothered to drill a pilot hole....its an absolute animal

 

[marcros]

why not put an advert up in the for sale section Bob? If I had have known this before I ordered mine, i would have been interested and you could have used my voucher towards the larger one. I am sure we could have done a deal. I plan to use mine only for furniture, so dont want/need the large version.

There seem to be a number of people still wanting the machines, so you may find somebody who would be more than happy with a used model and reduce the "wasted" £600.

 

[Random Orbital Bob]

Good point. I did think of that but now (3 years later) those door projects got done with conventional M&T's (have you tried putting full size solid oak styles on a mortising machine bed without adequate roller stands...ouch). And of course I have found multiple uses for the 500 ever since.

OMG I'm going to have to eat my own dog meat now aren't I....I can feel it coming...so...er...er...I...need a new washing machine...and..that would need...stutter.....fart....out of excuses. Alright I admit it...I love the 500 and its perfectly justified. There I've said it. Phew. You know what will happen now....next time I need some heavy duty M&T's I'll buy the 700 and 37 seconds later Festool will release the new "does anything to anything tool".....for a fiver!

 

[Grahamshed]

and 37 seconds later Festool will release the new "does anything to anything tool".....for a fiver!

Not for a fiver they won't :lol:

 

[chippy1970]

My only concern is the reasoning for the price cuts, are we due a new Domino???

No there's no new domino on the horizon as far as I know. It's just a deal that they did a year or so ago when I got mine.

Only new tools I know of are an edgebander, a multimaster type machine and a cordless plunge saw.

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