Jacob
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Doubt it! It's very fast with a chisel...
regarding that video - could a router plane be used to do hinges?
Doubt it! It's very fast with a chisel...
regarding that video - could a router plane be used to do hinges?
regarding that video - could a router plane be used to do hinges?
Well he was a carpenterJesus, the list is endless
Hi Derek, I agree, undoubtedly David Charlesworth proved this, however, out of the box, a new veritas or Lie Nielsen would be better than a new or indeed vintage un-tuned plane, a definite improvement in my opinion.Construction and materials of the modern premium planes has improved - and, conversely, construction and materials of modern non-premium planes has decreased - however, once tuned up, the performance of an old Stanley and a new LN is quite capable of being identical. Just yesterday I tuned the chipbreaker of an old English #3 (owned by my late FIL), sharpened the hand-beaten Clifton blade, and it took the sweetest shavings into the grain of some interlocked Jarrah. A new premium plane would not have done better.
The point being, not really an advance in the tool, per se, just materials and attention to detail.
Regards from Perth
Derek
Hi Derek, I agree, undoubtedly David Charlesworth proved this, however, out of the box, a new veritas or Lie Nielsen would be better than a new or indeed vintage un-tuned plane, a definite improvement in my opinion.
This is an impressive boast and ignores the capability of experienced joiners from making their own cutters, as Jacob often states he does. Up the ante to 200 feet of the same historic moulding and how do you think you would fare with hand tools versus modern tools and methods?
Here's a video from Bradshaw Joinery comparing speeds of hanging a door using a chisel method on one and a router with a jig for the other.
Spoiler alert: The router, including time to make the jig, was faster than the chisel method by nearly five minutes. With a jig already in hand, the router would be about 11 minutes faster than the chisel method.
Sorry jacob , looking back through, it was daniel2 who said that.....
you could put a little 20 or 30mm wide infill in place to support the router base and then use the jig as normal other than using a longer depth setting on the router bit?I’d still choose the hand plane, chisel and router plane method. Less noise and mess if you’re working in someone’s house.
How’s that cordless router going to sink hinge recesses in rebated casings?
This is an impressive boast and ignores the capability of experienced joiners from making their own cutters, as Jacob often states he does. Up the ante to 200 feet of the same historic moulding and how do you think you would fare with hand tools versus modern tools and methods?
Here's a video from Bradshaw Joinery comparing speeds of hanging a door using a chisel method on one and a router with a jig for the other.
Spoiler alert: The router, including time to make the jig, was faster than the chisel method by nearly five minutes. With a jig already in hand, the router would be about 11 minutes faster than the chisel method.
Exactly. Except it isn't difficult to get an exact match with spindle cutters. It's in the end process of offering up and fine adjusting.Of course larger quantities are quicker by machine, I don't doubt that and I never implied it either.
I can start working straight away without making anything. By the time my 6' is done, the joiner making the cutters is still making the cutters and he'll never get an exact match either.
I’ve always wanted one of those but for the five or six doors I hang in a decade I can’t really justify itOn the subject of hinge setting I use a LN 40B butt mortice plane, made for the job.
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I'm not sure why my post was quoted by you, I don't see the connection between my post and yours?For long grain shooting long thin panels often, then I'd probably agree, but I don't do regularly,
and only have Baileys with non square sides, but can use the bench to find small discrepancies.
Perhaps constantly planing very thin long stock which won't stand on edge might make it notable?
Derek might be one to answer this.
Might make a difference for one who wants the least amount of tools.It makes no difference whether a plane has perfectly square sides or not, you compensate with lateral adjustment.
Not many of them about!Might make a difference for one who wants the least amount of tools.
Nobody in their right minds does it. They have lateral adjusters.@mark w
Squaring plane sides up and making them less structurally sound, isn't something I'd want to do to a vintage plane,
so in that way the premium manufacturers made the biggest improvement there.
But very scratchable. Who breaks planes anyway?Could'a said the likes of Lie-Nielsen are made from practically unbreakable ductile iron too,
The retro planes are all heavierthat's an improvement also, though never held one apart from a little plane, so can't comment on the weight aspect.
I can't see the use of it. Can't possibly be any quicker than using a chisel.I’ve always wanted one of those but for the five or six doors I hang in a decade I can’t really justify it
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