I admit defeat

[Losos]

When our TV broke down in the 50's I used to take out a valve take it down the radio shop, get it tested and if it was Ok put it back in and select another likely source. thirty shillings a valve was a lot in those days.

And don't forget your Tely used to keep you warm as well in those days :lol:

 

[jimi43]

Built a moonlander for a PDP11 and I remember our Murphy had a pop up lid to beam the sound across the room!

The new Samsung smart TV is great fun though...I thought it about time for a change! :mrgreen:

Darn sight better than the rapidly darkening CRT "Flat Screen" which took two guys to take away!

Jim

 

[Eric The Viking]

I've still got a book on Z80 assembler somewhere.

Do we get points for having had a Nascom 1 in the family, on which I *did* once manage to type in the machine code for Lunar Lander? I've still got my Sinclair calculators from school. and I'm pretty certain they still work (the ones with the purple lenses over the minute LED displays).

The trouble is, the pictures on Freeview look horrible in comparison to well set up analogue. You only have to look at some of the 1970s Christmas repeats to see how good it could look. The best of digital is great, but the worst is unspeakably awful.

And don't get me started on the levels on Radio 3...

Grrr.

E.

 

[RogerS]

.....
The trouble is, the pictures on Freeview look horrible in comparison to well set up analogue. You only have to look at some of the 1970s Christmas repeats to see how good it could look. The best of digital is great, but the worst is unspeakably awful.
.......

Ah...to be sitting in the scanner looking at the monitor screen....R, G and B. None of this rubbishy PAL stuff! [Sigh] Those were the days [/Sigh] :deer

 

[bugbear]

I've still got a book on Z80 assembler somewhere.

Do we get points for having had a Nascom 1 in the family, on which I *did* once manage to type in the machine code for Lunar Lander? I've still got my Sinclair calculators from school. and I'm pretty certain they still work (the ones with the purple lenses over the minute LED displays).

These ready to use CPUs make the job too easy. Now designing and programming bit slice...

BugBear

 

[devonwoody]

After 24 hours of opening my present I have just got my Kindle present working. (Virgin had to do some work on their router set up in the end,)

So can I swap books I obtain with members here? etc. etc.

 

[RogerP]

After 24 hours of opening my present I have just got my Kindle present working. (Virgin had to do some work on their router set up in the end,)

So can I swap books I obtain with members here? etc. etc.

You can't swap Kindle books or at least no way I know of. It's stopped by the publishers not Amazon.

 

[jimi43]

Kindle books you buy on Amazon are stored on your Amazon account (Cloud thing)...and downloaded or deleted from your device as and when you choose.

I can share your library if you give me your account...mind you...I can also spend your money! :mrgreen:

Annie has the Kindle...I have Kindle on my phone and laptop...and they all get what she's bought...(or chosen for free)....and each device can either have a separate read point or synchronise with the furthest read.

Thus more than one person can read the same book or you can read one book on many devices by keeping your reading in sync.

The thing is you can now get the Kindle application for any device as far as I can see....simply because the lion's share of the money is made from the "sale" of the books.

I highly recommend you get every free classic you can DW....I read some for the first time ever...Robinson Crusoe being my favourite but I am about 1/4 way through Treasure Island and so glad I am!

Jimi

 

[Eric The Viking]

Ah...to be sitting in the scanner looking at the monitor screen....R, G and B. None of this rubbishy PAL stuff! [Sigh] Those were the days [/Sigh] :deer

As you probably know, Bristol in the 1970s only had a colour scanner (CMCR3), and no permanent cameras for Studio A (Animal Magic, Vision On, etc.).

One of my first regular jobs as a sprog was to turn up around 0645h on Monday mornings and plug up the camera comms between the scanner and the studio, so that its cameras (Philips PC60s) could be used remotely in St. A (at the week-ends it went off to do sport). There was always a muddy, diesely puddle under the comms tailboard. If you were foolish enough to drop a cable, you spent ages drying it out before it could be plugged in. By which time, the canteen had probably run out of bacon (it being a Monday morning 'n all).

So I was never thrilled by working on the scanner...

:-(

 

[RogerS]

Ah...to be sitting in the scanner looking at the monitor screen....R, G and B. None of this rubbishy PAL stuff! [Sigh] Those were the days [/Sigh] :deer

As you probably know, Bristol in the 1970s only had a colour scanner (CMCR3), and no permanent cameras for Studio A (Animal Magic, Vision On, etc.).

One of my first regular jobs as a sprog was to turn up around 0645h on Monday mornings and plug up the camera comms between the scanner and the studio, so that its cameras (Philips PC60s) could be used remotely in St. A (at the week-ends it went off to do sport). There was always a muddy, diesely puddle under the comms tailboard. If you were foolish enough to drop a cable, you spent ages drying it out before it could be plugged in. By which time, the canteen had probably run out of bacon (it being a Monday morning 'n all).

So I was never thrilled by working on the scanner...

:-(

Softy!

 

[Eric The Viking]

Not that - just the lack of a bacon butty afterwards (and I suppose "yes," a bit: teenagers can never get up early - it's in the hormones).

E.

 

[The Wood Butcher]

What a load of old cobblers... funnily enough I'm an engineer in film and TV post -production, you know, nowadays, not in the late Edwardian era, and I take your crappy old CRT monitors and tube cameras and and raise you 444, HD, 2k or 4k on a Sony OLED monitor or even better, a Dolby PRM4200 monitor. The 1970's was better quality my hairy backside... Aligning tube cameras and CRTs, dear god life's too short

And teenagers on shoots still get up early, just like everyone else. That hasn't changed.

 

[monkeybiter]

Has Jacob got a new login ?

 

[The Wood Butcher]

Hah! If only I were that northern.

 

[devonwoody]

Has Jacob got a new login ?

I think he went back to Jersulem to consult with the three wise men, to freshen up for the new year.

 

[RogerS]

What a load of old cobblers... funnily enough I'm an engineer in film and TV post -production, you know, nowadays, not in the late Edwardian era, and I take your crappy old CRT monitors and tube cameras and and raise you 444, HD, 2k or 4k on a Sony OLED monitor or even better, a Dolby PRM4200 monitor. The 1970's was better quality my hairy backside... Aligning tube cameras and CRTs, dear god life's too short

And teenagers on shoots still get up early, just like everyone else. That hasn't changed.

Certainly I agree with you that the introduction of digital video (along with all its poor colorimetry and unwanted digital artefacts) brought along a deskilling in the industry :-"

 

[riclepp]

Has Jacob got a new login ?

I think he went back to Jersulem to consult with the three wise men, to freshen up for the new year.

lol

 

[Eric The Viking]

My comment was that teenagers have always hated getting up, me included. Not that they somehow don't do it now, as I'm sure they have to.

Anyway the digital transmission system, as used today, leads to pants pictures, including horrid motion artefacts, most of the time. I know what the kit can do, but what it normally does is produce nastiness. It's the production methods, training and TX economics that are the problem, not the kit itself. HDTV is all very well, but ordinary, cooking telly looks truly dreadful.

 

[Losos]

My comment was that teenagers have always hated getting up, me included. Not that they somehow don't do it now, as I'm sure they have to.

Anyway the digital transmission system, as used today, leads to pants pictures, including horrid motion artefacts, most of the time. I know what the kit can do, but what it normally does is produce nastiness. It's the production methods, training and TX economics that are the problem, not the kit itself. HDTV is all very well, but ordinary, cooking telly looks truly dreadful.

Well I had better not start on why analogue was good, well it had ONE good point :lol: In the world of Police telecoms the operators got to know what the patrol car guys were saying almost regardless of signal level, the human ear can detect speech when the 'noise' is very high and there is almost no signal, how nice it would be if that was true of digital.

Same applies to TV, on balance the changeover to digital had to happen, but I do get irked when people say digital is wonderful and analogue was c**p - nothing in this world is ever all black and white (No pun intended :lol: )

 

[RogerS]

My ears are analogue.

So are my eyes !