Help me with my college assignment

[TheTiddles]

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There's a book in the local library - "How To Make Friends And Influence People". You should read it sometime.

Cheers

Karl

I wonder if they have the alternative "How to get people to pineapple off an leave you alone"?

:lol:

I wrote it, do you want a signed extract??! :lol:

Aidan

 

[Chems]

I wouldn't worry about it. Isn't JFCundercover that guy who keeps getting banned? He's a troll isn't he?

 

[TrimTheKing]

Not everyone who asks for advice is some snotty kid who spends most of his day playing xbox and browsing porn sites. TrimtheKing seems to think that I fall into this category. Pardon me for not letting myself be pigeon holed.

I'll respectfully refer you back to this, and this.

A couple of examples of where my opinion of you was formed, and clearly little appears to have changed...

I'm not going to get into a stupid petty squabble, but don't expect to turn up here, ask us to do your 'homework' for you, then tell someone not to take the water when they actually gave you a perfect 'real life' example of the situation you asked about.

 

[mtr1]

I wouldn't worry about it. Isn't JFCundercover that guy who keeps getting banned? He's a troll isn't he?

JFCundercover descibed what actually does happen in the real world of building, I too have known what he descibes to be very accurate Chems.

 

[Lons]

Thank you Oxy and Jfcundercover for making this slightly clearly. Managed to pad out three quarters of a page on this, so hopefully it will suffice. Haven't really got answers to all the questions I have but know enough through research to make educated conclusions. If anyone would like to mention the contracts involved I would appreciate that. These days do builders just write an estimate on a bit of ripped off paper, sign it, and then give it to the client? Or are there certain mandatory bits of paper that are required by law, even for a client - contractor procurement? If so what are these bits of paper? Do building control leave paper work every time they visit the site?

Trim the King what are you implying?

Hi

You've got most of the answers but as a small builder, (most of my jobs are under £40k), I might be able to shed some light.

* For standard extensions to existing properties it might be desirable but is not essential to employ an architect.

* Detailed plans are not required for planning submission but those submitted must comply with requirements (can be viewed on L/A website).

* Detailed drawings are not required by building control although they much prefer them. You can often proceed under building notice which receives the same attention and visits from the BCO. If structural calcs are required for roofs or steelwork etc they must be provided.

* Visits are at specific stages of work, e.g excavation, founds, DPC, first fix etc. and conditions of ventilation and insulation must be satisfied. You will receive a set of cards before work commences.
The BCO might not seem to look at much but they are trained to observe and a good one will always pick up short cuts. Their job is to ensure the work is to the correct standards and will do all they can to help the builder achieve that. They also tend to know local builders and will react according to that knowledge.
TV progs only help reputable companies like mine but of course the media are interested only in what makes good tv and the number of cowboys are minimal as a % of those in business.
No paperwork is left at a visit but records are completed at the office.

* Contracts are not a requirement but a reputable company will always give a professional and very detailed estimate to form the basis of a contract. I do not always provide one but ALL my work is referal or to regular customers and I turn down more than I accept. Saying that, a formal contract is desirable as much to the builder as the customer and removes misunderstandings about what is actually expected.

From a tradesmans' point of view, there are actually very few projects which progress exactly as planned and the dreaded words: "just while you're here" or "I've been thinking", not to mention the apprehension of reading a note pinned to the wall when you start work :roll: is an occupational hazzard.

Detailed plans also make it much quicker and easier for a builder to price a job.

Hope a little of that helps and good luck with the assignment

Bob

 

[studders]

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There's a book in the local library - "How To Make Friends And Influence People". You should read it sometime.

Cheers

Karl

I wonder if they have the alternative "How to get people to pineapple off an leave you alone"?

:lol:

I wrote it, do you want a signed extract??! :lol:

Aidan

If you could just précis the important bits that would be nice. :lol:

 

[studders]

I wouldn't worry about it. Isn't JFCundercover that guy who keeps getting banned?
He's a troll isn't he?

Yes, though I'm not sure why.
No.


HTH

 

[big soft moose]

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There's a book in the local library - "How To Make Friends And Influence People". You should read it sometime.

Cheers

Karl

I wonder if they have the alternative "How to get people to pineapple off an leave you alone"?

:lol:

I wrote it, do you want a signed extract??! :lol:

Aidan

If you could just précis the important bits that would be nice. :lol:

there is a book called "how to lose freinds and alienate people" but i was under the impression that certain posters might have already read that one

 

[Doug B]

there is a book called "how to lose freinds and alienate people" but i was under the impression that certain posters might have already read that one

You certainly seem to be familiar with this publication moosey, not one i`ve heard of.

 

[big soft moose]

there is a book called "how to lose freinds and alienate people" but i was under the impression that certain posters might have already read that one

You certainly seem to be familiar with this publication moosey, not one i`ve heard of.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/How-Lose-Friend ... 0349114854

there was a film as well - joking aside its a good book.

and actually my bible would be more along the lines of " how to not give a dung what (most) people think"

the precis being (as jimi had in his sig line) "be who you are and say what you think, cos those who matter dont mind, and those as mind dont matter"

 

[Mreagleeyes]

Don't take the water.

Your arrogance astounds me. I'm sure this was a site for WOODwork. I read your post earlier and could not make heads or tails of it, something about PVC & wooden framed windows. Try Google.
I have no answer too your question, but what would have made me read more and take an interest was some simple pleasentries such as this as a title!.

"Help me with my college assignment".

How about?,

"Help needed with some college work, thanks guys in advance".

Just my view.

 

[Doug B]

and actually my bible would be more along the lines of " how to not give a dung what (most) people think"

Yep, i find that with a lot of the younger generation, a total disrespect of others, they just plough on doing exactly as they want regardless of the consequences to others.

Hay ho way of the world, what`s worrying is i am turning into me dad :lol: :lol:

 

[Digit]

Yep! Strong on rights and weak on responsibilities, but welcome to the club dad!

Roy.

 

[big soft moose]

and actually my bible would be more along the lines of " how to not give a dung what (most) people think"

Yep, i find that with a lot of the younger generation, a total disrespect of others, they just plough on doing exactly as they want regardless of the consequences to others.

Hay ho way of the world, what`s worrying is i am turning into me dad :lol: :lol:

I supose i should be flattered that you think i'm in the "younger" generation (i'm 37), but for the record i dont have a total disrespect for others - I respect, and have the respect of my freinds and colleagues. But I treat as i find - so if someone shows no respect for me or indeed for anyone else then I will treat them as they deserve, ie like the twunt they are, and quite rightly not give a flying **** what they think

 

[Gary]

Bless Hawkeye, he does make it entertaining. :lol:

 

[Karl]

Bless Hawkeye, he does make it entertaining. :lol:

:lol:

 

[Gary]

Shame he don't send us all nice PM's.

Trims one lucky dude.

 

[big soft moose]

Shame he don't send us all nice PM's.

Trims one lucky dude.

according to what trim said on the haven, hawkeye dissected trims personallity at length then insulted his little girl - great behaviour and really well calculated to make us like him and help him do his college work (which presumably he is too lazy or stupid to do himself) - dale carnegie would be so proud

I told trim he should post the pm here so that we can all enjoy Hawkeye's persuasive and errudite style (tho Hawkeye probably thinks errudite is a type of glue :lol: )

 

[PeterBassett]

(tho Hawkeye probably thinks errudite is a type of glue :lol: )

:lol: :lol:

 

[Karl]

according to what trim said on the haven, hawkeye dissected trims personallity at length then insulted his little girl

What a to$$er.