Haggling on price - is it the done thing?

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Should you haggle on price

  • Yes - haggle away, it's up to the seller to decide if they want to accept

    Votes: 19 55.9%
  • No - The seller has already told you the price they want

    Votes: 1 2.9%
  • Depends - depends on the item/situation

    Votes: 14 41.2%

  • Total voters
    34
This is why I dislike haggling.
If I'm selling something, I come up with a price and well, that's the price. If I wanted to get less, I would have priced it less.
I find the seller to be a bit dishonest when they ask for X but are willing to accept X-y.
It sends the message that you're not trying to get a fair price but the most you can.
 
If the price is unrealistically high, I just don't even consider a purchase. if its fair, I'll mostly just buy it, otherwise (assuming a somewhat realistic start point) I'll offer what I consider fair.
There have definately been times that I've thought that is a fair price, but I don't really need it, and on that occasion I'll offer the price I'm prepared to pay.

I'm always amazed at how many people think a second hand item is worth 90% of the full retail price
 
This is why I dislike haggling.
If I'm selling something, I come up with a price and well, that's the price. If I wanted to get less, I would have priced it less.
I find the seller to be a bit dishonest when they ask for X but are willing to accept X-y.
It sends the message that you're not trying to get a fair price but the most you can.
I'll offer the view that haggling has been the norm throughout the whole of the world for most of recorded history.
Ultimately any buy/sell transaction is a negotiation. These used to be done one-on-one according to supply and demand and the circumstances of the two individuals in the moment. I suspect that more than half the world's population may still see this as normal.

Only the advent of mass produced goods, foods and bulk raw materials act to change this, because one large seller can't have meaningful negotiations with many individual buyers.
Individual small shopkeepers and storeholders can. Oil companies and online sellers like amazon can't.

When haggling can't take place, there is still a negotiation, it just fails at the first hurdle. The manufacturer, retailer, whoever, offers an item for sale and posts their asking price. Potential buyers look or listen and in most cases don't find this OK (after all, why should they, the seller has no god given right to dictate a price to suit themselves). Sadly the big sellers aren't interested in listening, so the buyer just walks on by and finds somewhere else or something else that offers them a better deal.

In cultures where haggling is normal, it procedes according to local culture and convention. This might be impeccably polite or riotously insulting. Neither is wrong. It is simply "how things are done around here".
If we are not tuned in, this can be uncomfortable and at the end we aren't confident that we got a fair deal because the path to it wasn't familiar. I think simple unfamiliarity is the problem for many. We will be fine with it, we just need to jump in and get some practice.

When you offer something for sale you are making a first move in a negotiation. I don't think that adopting the same mindset as big corporations "my way is the only way", is the best strategy for an individual to succeed. That just encourages people to walk on by. More productive perhaps to assume the buyer is a reasonable individual with their own point of view and priorities. Draw these out, engage in conversation, argue your own position and look for a compromise that meets both your needs.
If the other party doesn't follow the social niceties, by all means cut them off. Stand up for yourself because no one else will but if we recognise that we are following in a time honoured tradition, listen and explain, both parties could have the satisfaction of making the deal together.



I bought some secondhand materials earlier this year for about $1000 on ebay.
To collect them I had to rent a van and drive several hours round trip at a cost of maybe $250
I had no hesitation in explaining this to the seller and offering to buy all of his goods but because of the time and cost of collection and the value of the goods to me, I would have to ask him for a 30% discount off his asking price.
We had a good conversation. Agreed the price. I committed the time, rental and fuel costs. I met a nice guy, bought all of his stuff rather than the bare minimum I needed, and we both walked away happy.
I bought something I could never have afforded new at the heavy discount I needed to make it worthwhile and the seller made a deal after 3 months of not finding a buyer. Very important to him, I was willing to committ the time and effort to collect and by a drop dead date that he couldn't move.

A deal is something two of you "make" where there was nothing before. It takes some effort, some knowledge, trying to see the other guy's point of view, and at least an effort to be sociable. I find it rather satisfying :)

If this encourages even one person to "make a deal" where they otherwise wouldn't have done, I'll be really pleased.
 
I find the seller to be a bit dishonest when they ask for X but are willing to accept X-y.
It sends the message that you're not trying to get a fair price but the most you can.
Surely a fair price is, by definition, the most you can get?
Ask for more than you can get and you won't sell the item.
Any less and you are not being fair to yourself.
 
Sideways has completely nailed it in a rather charming positive way I think. I always haggle. Unless the price is way to high as this means the seller can get offended. Or the right price for a good deal in which case I just buy.(I may try a sneaky small offer first though) there is no correct way just like communication of any sort. But I'm not keen on direct confrontation over buying tbh. In the early days of ebay I remember selling a dewalt chopsaw to a guy who turned up(after a buy it now) and started strong arm haggling. After telling him no the price is the price he then told me ge got it cheap anyway!
Thankfully every other ebay/fb pick up has turned out to be very positive and nice.(maybe a hundred)
 
I agree Sideways has put it somewhat succinctly. I also think most people forget that it applies when they are looking at a new job. They are offering a skill that the prospective employer wants and he is offering a salary and benefits in return. It's a negotiation or should be, certainly not a take-it-or-leave-it.
And, no, I'm not a raging socialist I just think its common sense, mind you I think even that is dying out along with us wrinkles.
Martin
 
Hi,

just wondering what others thoughts are on haggling on the price, particularly on FB marketplace.

I sometimes make an offer but I'm never truly comfortable doing it. Never really sure if people expect offers, or you should just accept the price they are asking if you want it.

I guess that most people would put a high price so they can be knocked down to what they actually think they would get, so everyone is happy. Is that generally right?

what do you think?
For me it's about a few things:

1. How badly do I want / need the item
2. Convenience (distance, delivery)
3. Time
4. Knowing the worth

Depending on that I'll either make an offer or accept the price.
 

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