They need the practice and they may have important things to say, however badly they say it. And nobody will get run over in the process!
Not at all. People learning need encouraging, whatever it is.
You are at liberty to do all those things, and write in green felt tip if you choose.
Gtry whrr nnh!;
I think we are probably pretty close in our thinking. I build websites for a living and webcode is generally unforgiving, if you miss a comma it will not work. When I write a forum post and miss a comma it is highly unlikely that the message will completely fail.Haha we could probably debate this for hoursI've honestly never thought about it before so it's interesting for me.
I don't disagree with anything you have said. That's my polite way of saying you didn't paraphrase my sentiments successfully
It's okay though, I'll take the blame for that one - I'm often clear in my head but then get misunderstood... something to do with being neuro diverse probably.
I used guitar as I was responding to somebody else and I was riffing off that, but here is another example that might be better:
- An engineer uses a pencil and paper to design a component which somebody then uses to make a component. The medium, the pencil and paper, has utility, but it isn't the end result. The component is. Once we have the component we can throw the drawing away. And we do.
- An artist uses a pencil and paper to draw a portrait. It has no utility, other than to look good. You cannot throw it in the bin once you have drawn it, otherwise you have nothing. It's sort of at the end of the chain already, whereas the technical drawing was just part of the journey
- Rembrand may be able to make a techy drawing look great, but the component wouldn't be any more accurate once it's made. In this example rembrand is adding the commas but nobody cares.
- The pencil and paper used to draw the techy drawing is equivalent to how I use words on forums - a stepping stone to achieving understanding.
I love rembrand and Monet, but they can't draw a driveshaft any better than Gordon Murray.
I love Andy McNabb and Stephen fry but they can't explain quantum locking to me with any more clarity than some random dude on physics forums.com smashing out 100 words a minute and using zero commas, full stops or even sentences
I'm probably exaggerating here a little, and much of this is I expect simply laziness on my part; I just can't be bothered with grammar. Or spelling for that matter
Martin
none of the 3 grammar checkers I've just tried show an error in the way I wrote it. Pedantic - 'excessively concerned with minor details or rules; overscrupulous'...n.b. should be "Would you prefer everyone to turn a blind eye?"Don't want to be pedantic but it's a slippery slope!
Really? NSPCC, for one, would disagree with you Alcohol, drugs and parenting
So people on this forum who make grammatical mistakes are the victims of drugs and prostitution?
Doesn't take much thought to realise it is a sliding scale. That is the worst case that does affect some children, a significant amount of children have a home life that is less than ideal and even the 'posh' types (your term) does not necessarily equal a good home life, they just have more money. Doesn't mean they aren't going to be ingnored or told to go play on their playstation.
Correlation does not imply causation, there may be evidence that people who are raised in an environment where there is a high incidence of drink and drug abuse are likely to underachieve and hence frequently make grammatical mistakes. However, it does not follow that a tendency to grammatical errors implies exposure to drink and drugs. But I think you knew that.
It was the Rose & Crown when I first came across that one but only amounted to 5 ands
But I DID run through the tents, so 'run' can be present or past (perfect) tense
My father told me that about a Fish & Chip shop - 1945 ish - again only 5 'ands' though.
One of the reasons for slovenliness is the reliance on a spell checker. It won't pick up the wrong use of their/there or pair/pear for example. I get the impression that a lot of people don't read through their draft before hitting the POST button.
My spelling is atrocious due to terrible dyslexia. I do have a very large vocabulary and good command of grammar. My school reports were always a source of amusement because they always said “try to get him to read more”. I read all the time and my parents actually had difficulty getting me to do anything else. The adage of needing to read more is often thrown about but doesn’t always apply.
. To indicate the extent of the problem, without spell checker, I can spell a work like ‘the’ in two or three different ways in a single sentence. Ask me to read it and they all come out as ‘the’. I just don’t see the problem. The most embarrassing example was at school when the entire class was called over to see my ‘perfect’ technical drawing and asked to spot the mistake. Most of them saw it immediately and had a good laugh. I couldn’t see it until someone pointed out where I had spelt my name wrong in the title block.One of the reasons for slovenliness is the reliance on a spell checker. It won't pick up the wrong use of their/there or pair/pear for example. I get the impression that a lot of people don't read through their draft before hitting the POST button.
Oh dear, Cozzer. My spell checker has just picked up the misspelling of mispelling in your post
Brian
