Phil Pascoe
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A double amputee with dementia around the corner from me has just died. His wife told me she'd have been in court within days if she kept an animal in his condition.
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Gout 😥
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Stigmorgan
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It amazes me that we can put an animal to sleep because it will not have quality of life ( or in some countries because you simply don't want it anymore) yet we force our fellow humans to endure what can only be described as torture.
clogs
just can't decide
MIL had two brain stents to save her life but she was a cabbage with full on dementia.......
My wife asked the surgon WHY, he said he didn't know her prev condition was so bad......
she lasted 2 years with home help even after the doc refused all meds......
she died because she lost the swollow reflex....
Most of the probs with the likes of A+E is education and alchohol......
perhaps a charge of £50 to visit said place only refundable if it's a proper need.......
and if emegency services are called due to drink/drug probs perhaps a charge of £1000 per service should be enforced....
and only drug / drink free driving allowed.....2nd offence means a total driving ban for LIFE.....
we were tought to just get on with it....not make a u tube vid for a black eye......
My wife asked the surgon WHY, he said he didn't know her prev condition was so bad......
she lasted 2 years with home help even after the doc refused all meds......
she died because she lost the swollow reflex....
Most of the probs with the likes of A+E is education and alchohol......
perhaps a charge of £50 to visit said place only refundable if it's a proper need.......
and if emegency services are called due to drink/drug probs perhaps a charge of £1000 per service should be enforced....
and only drug / drink free driving allowed.....2nd offence means a total driving ban for LIFE.....
we were tought to just get on with it....not make a u tube vid for a black eye......
johnny
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it really does frustrate and concern me that some people still choose to suffer daily with pain and disability unnecessarily in this day and age when the internet is full of up-to-date, peer reviewed ,published Scientific and Medical research that can help relieve or eliminate these Metabolic issues.
Why do people suffering with Metabolic Disease and chronic conditions ask for Medical advice on a woodworking forum ? Just do a little research into what the cause of Gout is and how to stop Gout from the source rather that accepting a load of uninformed incorrect and often misleading advice from unqualified and unsubstantiated sources on Forums and Internet groups.
.If you want to be certain that what you read is really trustworthy then look for the links to the published Meta Analysis of Scientific and medical research
If your car engine or gearbox were to suddenly start to sound noisy and rattly we wouldn't chose to fill it full of thicker oil and sawdust like we did back in the 50s and 60's because we now appreciate that that would be at best a temporary short term measure and does not address the real source of the problem. This is what Medication is...its a band-aid, sticky plaster measure in response to symptoms which can never address the real cause of the problem and reverse it and put it into remission.
Why do people suffering with Metabolic Disease and chronic conditions ask for Medical advice on a woodworking forum ? Just do a little research into what the cause of Gout is and how to stop Gout from the source rather that accepting a load of uninformed incorrect and often misleading advice from unqualified and unsubstantiated sources on Forums and Internet groups.
.If you want to be certain that what you read is really trustworthy then look for the links to the published Meta Analysis of Scientific and medical research
If your car engine or gearbox were to suddenly start to sound noisy and rattly we wouldn't chose to fill it full of thicker oil and sawdust like we did back in the 50s and 60's because we now appreciate that that would be at best a temporary short term measure and does not address the real source of the problem. This is what Medication is...its a band-aid, sticky plaster measure in response to symptoms which can never address the real cause of the problem and reverse it and put it into remission.
niemeyjt
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Not sure if this constitutes "trustworthy":
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-11438493/Having-***-help-ease-agony-gout-say-experts.html
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-11438493/Having-***-help-ease-agony-gout-say-experts.html
Jameshow
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Valhalla
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Well, I've often been told to "Gout of my pub"!! Beyond that I can't help you...
True about NHS not keeping up. But global overpopulation not so much.
Development of essential infrastructure has not kept up with world population. Where there's a will, there's a way.
Funny how - for example - air travel has kept up with 'growing population' in this country. Its plentiful and cheap. There's a will.
Btw, growing population also means more tax. Longer working population equals more tax. Etc etc. Its mismanagement and lack of long term thinking For NHS.
Jacob
What goes around comes around.
No it's the government which has not kept up with the funding
Not really. People are carefully checked out by the receptionists.
The problem is the opposite - too many urgent cases not being picked up soon enough due to lack of resources and the delays - the biggest cause of this being lack of care home space to free up hospital beds.
The system isn't "joined up" -literally; there's been a policy of divide and rule, privatise, new management experiments, PFI etc etc all supposedly in the interests of productivity and efficiency but having the opposite effect. You only have to listen to the nursing and medical staff and they tell us this over and over again.
Not really. There was trouble and strife when the population was tenth of the size. It's more about allocation of resources.
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Jacob
What goes around comes around.
Might be worth having a go you never know.
niemeyjt
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I hope I do not need to wait for my next attack . . .
Tris
What am I doing here?
Does gout trump a headache? 
Apparently they have given an extra £80 odd billion but there is no shop where you can buy nurses or doctors so you might get infrastructure but no staff, about as good as chocolate teapots !
Jacob
What goes around comes around.
Phil Pascoe
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The way to overcome staff shortages is to reduce the cost involved with training, do all nurses really need a degree and the associated student loan. Also rather than give the nurses a big payrise why not just change the tax code for nurses so they pay less tax, do something to show we value their services.
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Jameshow
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Not good for gout!
Jacob
What goes around comes around.
Yes to the degree - education can very good you know! Especially for people who may have my life in their hands!
No to the loan it should be free.
But why not give them a pay rise?
Phil Pascoe
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My sister, SEN, SRN, B.Sc, PGCE is in health service management in NZ. Her thoughts - yes, I need extremely well qualified nurses .......... but they don't all have to be well qualified.
Orraloon
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Had a couple of attacks. First time was worst. I was at work and the pain was getting worse as the day went on. Early afternoon I arranged to see a doctor and had to drive home. Using the brake pedal was murder.
I have to say the medication works well and its gone in a day. My doctor gives me a script for it every year so I always have some on standby.
Its not always in the feet. I heard of a poor woman that had it in her jaw. That would make the eyes water. Its a very painful thing. No wonder old king Henry was such unsocial b@$t@&d. No proper meds back then either.
Regards
John
I have to say the medication works well and its gone in a day. My doctor gives me a script for it every year so I always have some on standby.
Its not always in the feet. I heard of a poor woman that had it in her jaw. That would make the eyes water. Its a very painful thing. No wonder old king Henry was such unsocial b@$t@&d. No proper meds back then either.
Regards
John
