good cheap impact driver

[MMUK]

What are peoples thoughts on the 10.xV Makita/Panasonic effort that appear as a twin pack with a drill for Circa £120-140?

in terms of occasional use, nothing too much to drive in, and compact being a bonus etc

Torque is pretty good from the impact driver, on a fully charged battery it will drive home a 4" #10 into softwood without pre-drilling, this does however kill the battery quite quickly. Under normal use though I can easily plasterboard a whole room on one charge, that's several hundred drywall screws into stud.

With an impact? You must be popular.

Maybe :wink: I don't really give a smeg. I do my job and get paid for it, that's what counts :mrgreen:

 

[Wuffles]

What are peoples thoughts on the 10.xV Makita/Panasonic effort that appear as a twin pack with a drill for Circa £120-140?

in terms of occasional use, nothing too much to drive in, and compact being a bonus etc

Torque is pretty good from the impact driver, on a fully charged battery it will drive home a 4" #10 into softwood without pre-drilling, this does however kill the battery quite quickly. Under normal use though I can easily plasterboard a whole room on one charge, that's several hundred drywall screws into stud.

With an impact? You must be popular.

Maybe :wink: I don't really give a smeg. I do my job and get paid for it, that's what counts :mrgreen:

You've passed your trade persons exam with flying colours

 

[Wizard9999]

Not vouching for independence or objectivity of this review / comparison, but discussion aove inspired me to do a quick search for some comparison so thought I would share this one...

https://thoroughlyreviewed.com/tools/im ... r-reviews/

Not sure how pounds of torque relates to NM, but it would appear the much discussed Ryiobi has joint highest torque (1500 pounds), but overall is judged sixth of the ten tested. Not sure if models tested are the same as those under discussion here. Anyway hopefully somebody will find this useful.

Terry.

 

[woodenstx]

looks like its inch pounds... Trust the yanks to use a unit of measure that makes a massive number :lol

1500 in*lbs = 170NM (with rounding) which is what that Dewalt shows on normal sites.

 

[Wuffles]

Is this a test or someone reading off a box and typing them into a table?


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[Eric The Viking]

I know I was TL;DR earlier, but honestly:

THE AMOUNT OF TORQUE WILL DEPEND ON THE STATE OF THE BATTERY.

Unless any tester tries the things in a standardised way, with the batteries at various, known amounts of discharge, there is no meaningful comparison. Even then you only get an idea of fitness for one specific task.

No publication I know of is brave enough to do this, for risk of upsetting its advertisers. And I don't blame them for that.

E.

 

[Wuffles]

I know I was TL;DR earlier, but honestly:

THE AMOUNT OF TORQUE WILL DEPEND ON THE STATE OF THE BATTERY.

Unless any tester tries the things in a standardised way, with the batteries at various, known amounts of discharge, there is no meaningful comparison. Even then you only get an idea of fitness for one specific task.

No publication I know of is brave enough to do this, for risk of upsetting its advertisers. And I don't blame them for that.

E.

And I agree, but my point is, it's all meaningless without testing.

 

[Eric The Viking]

Sorry Wuffles - wasn't aiming that at anyone in particular, least of all you.

E.

 

[woodenstx]

I guess "we" need that fella who ripped apart a TS55 saying how crappy it was for the cost etc :lol:

I'm leaning towards the Makita 10.xV one as my main requirement right now is compact size (and the 3.xV things from the usual DIY store wont cut it).
I think it can be had on its own as opposed to in a set, but the set could be better VFM... plus an extra toy :lol:

 

[Eric The Viking]

I have the Bosch equivalent to the Makita (drill/driver, impact driver, and oscillating multi-tool). I'm really pleased with all of it, BUT a friend bought the Makita "white" set (drill driver +impact) and comparing them, there was a subtle difference in quality - the Makita drill had very little play in the shaft, for example, and felt heavier and more solid.

That said, with the exception of the impact driver, mine have all been used hard over a number of years and are still going strong.

Some of the oldest batteries are tailing off now (I always mark numbers on batteries, so I can use them in rotation and know which is which), but the date code on them seems to be 2010 (hadn't realised it was that long). OK, amateur use (so not 8h/day), but they're still quite good enough for pretty much everything I need (labelled 14Wh, 1.3Ah).

They seem to be identical batteries to Makita, with the exception of the clip-on outer cover (that matches the drill design), so there won't be any difference there (probably!). I think you might be able to get third-party batteries now for Makita, so that might be a cost saving. And there is a Makita option with a Systainer instead of the truly daft Bosch L-boxzzz (whatever!).

Bosch or Makita? I don't regret buying Bosch really, but if doing it again...

E.

 

[n0legs]

Why don't we collectively buy a bunch of these drivers and send them to Torqueleader in Surrey?
Get them to test them and put an end to all this wondering. If you know tools you'll know they know torque

 

[Wuffles]

I have the Bosch equivalent to the Makita (drill/driver, impact driver, and oscillating multi-tool). I'm really pleased with all of it, BUT a friend bought the Makita "white" set (drill driver +impact) and comparing them, there was a subtle difference in quality - the Makita drill had very little play in the shaft, for example, and felt heavier and more solid.

That said, with the exception of the impact driver, mine have all been used hard over a number of years and are still going strong.

Some of the oldest batteries are tailing off now (I always mark numbers on batteries, so I can use them in rotation and know which is which), but the date code on them seems to be 2010 (hadn't realised it was that long). OK, amateur use (so not 8h/day), but they're still quite good enough for pretty much everything I need (labelled 14Wh, 1.3Ah).

They seem to be identical batteries to Makita, with the exception of the clip-on outer cover (that matches the drill design), so there won't be any difference there (probably!). I think you might be able to get third-party batteries now for Makita, so that might be a cost saving. And there is a Makita option with a Systainer instead of the truly daft Bosch L-boxzzz (whatever!).

Bosch or Makita? I don't regret buying Bosch really, but if doing it again...

E.

L-Boxxxxxxxxxxxxxlolz are just the worst aren't they?! Bosch's late entry to the systainer crown.

Bosch batteries fit in Makita site radios too - I have Bosch batteries still and no tools so it's handy for me as I also have no Makita batteries. Works a charm when I'm in the hammock reminiscing on the ridiculously low output of the day. With a beer.