Fine toothed panel saw and Philly Panel Raisers

[marcus]

Hello! Been quiet for a while due to woodwork threatening eye problems :shock: Much better now though

Just wondering if anyone has come across/used a panel saw with fine teeth - say 13tpi. Seems like it would be a sensible plan giving more/quicker cutting ability than a tenon saw, but with less tear out.... They're not available to buy though I dare say I could get Thomas Flinn to rustle me one up....

And, incidentally thanks for the pair of panel raisers Phil - they work a treat - highly recommended

Cheers

Marcus

 

[Philly]

My pleasure, Marcus. Glad to hear you're up and running again!
Philly

 

[matthewwh]

Hi Marcus,

I've got an ex-demo 10tpi Pax if you want to try it out on a sale or return basis.

 

[wizer]

OFGS, can we just ban Matthew pls ?? :lol:

 

[Paul Chapman]

If you want something out or the ordinary, Marcus, it might be worth trying Mike Wenzloff. He's now offering a wider range of saws so it looks as though his backlog problem has probably eased http://wenzloffandsons.com/wordpress/20 ... offerings/ He would be able to make to your specification. I've ordered one of his Harvey Peace saws

Cheers :wink:

Paul

 

[Derek Cohen (Perth Oz)]

Marcus, Paul's recommendation of contacting Mike Wenzloff is spot on.

Some years ago I got a half-back panel saw from him. I think this has either 11 or 12 ppi (may be 13?) ..

Very recently, about 10 days ago (!!!), two new custom saws arrived from Mike, a dovetail (20 ppi and .018" steel) and a large tenon (16" long, 10 ppi, .20" steel). These are either the first of the new Harvey Pierce range, or the pre-production models for it (our discussions for the saws go back to last year). I do love the HP style of handle. Both here in African Blackwood.

These were birthday presents from the family (my 60th was early in January) ...

I have not had a chance yet to use them in anger. However, I did do a few test cuts. Oh Lordy.. this is the smoothest dovetail saw I have yet used. Not the fastest, but fast enough. But the smoothest. I grabbed a piece of 1/8" thick Jarrah and sliced this up easily. Then I tried s 3/4" Tasmanian Oak board (this is essentially the same as White Oak), and after a few test cuts was peeling off slices 1/16" inch thick. The tenon saw is, as mentioned, 16" and 10 ppi. I wanted a longer saw than my 14" Nurse. The test cut above was done quickly but I know this is going to be a love affair.

See for yourself ...

Regards from Perth

Derek

 

[Mr Ed]

Derek they are beautiful saws and they sound like they will have performance to match.

I'm in the market for some saws; I want a 16" tenon, a pair of handsaws rip and X-cut (probably 22") and maybe a dovetail. I like the look of Wenzloff's stuff but it seems a lot of effort and waiting to buy from him. I was kind of hoping that the house lines of saws would make it easier, but the website page has been half developed for about a month now, so I'm guessing that its not going to be a quick process.

Axminster tell me that the 16" LN tenon will be here in March and featured in a promotion in the March edition of Top Tools.

Ed

 

[Derek Cohen (Perth Oz)]

I hear fantastic things about the LN 16". The specs were originally part of a custom order (for a friend of mine). LN were so taken with the performance after making it for him that they decided to produce it commercially.

He is really happy with his, which was the first off the line.

Regards from Perth

Derek

 

[Alf]

Just wondering if anyone has come across/used a panel saw with fine teeth - say 13tpi. Seems like it would be a sensible plan giving more/quicker cutting ability than a tenon saw, but with less tear out...

Hmm, my saw theory is rusty, but I think all it'd give you would be greater depth of cut? More teeth are likely to slow the cut. I have a suspicion that the thicker plate of a backless saw would probably come in there somewhere to upset things too. The half-back, as Derek so ably shows in his subtle gloat*, is widely considered the half-way house twixt panel saw and back saw, but it's noticeable the Wenzloff's that Lee Valley sell have a mere 9tpi; less than some panel saws. At this point you're possibly expecting me to have drawn a conclusion, but I'm going to duck this one and second the notion of talking to Mike about it and see what he says.

Cheers, Alf

*You need to work on these, Derek - we might not notice if you don't make it obvious Beautiful saws, though. Great way to mark your 60th. 60 though? You don't type a day over 59.