Jacob
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What's wrong with it? They are so simple I can't imagine how they could get it wrong.
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Jacob":1rdcdobj said:What's wrong with it? They are so simple I can't imagine how they could get it wrong.
Yup. That's why I have twotopchippytom":n2kncaza said:Coping saw in handy for everything not just dovetail joints and all timber workers should have one
Jacob, if you can't see the need for any paring in dovetail work then none of us can help you.Jacob":n2kncaza said:Paring doesn't come into it, not least because you don't need a pared surface - they are all out of sight.
I'd agree with your last point here, but with a firm emphasis on may. That is not to say it doesn't help, it most definitely can. And not only for the amateur who chops out mortises infrequently. Plenty of pros do it at least some of the time, evidently they think the technique has value; and actually the method goes back to before electric drills so no 'modern fad' accusations please.Jacob":n2kncaza said:Coping saw is a bit like drilling out mortices - it looks a good idea but in reality doesn't help and may hinder.
ED65":6bpjl6if said:.........I'd agree with your last point here, but with a firm emphasis on may. That is not to say it doesn't help, it most definitely can. And not only for the amateur who chops out mortises infrequently. Plenty of pros do it at least some of the time, evidently they think the technique has value; and actually the method goes back to before electric drills so no 'modern fad' accusations please........Jacob":6bpjl6if said:Coping saw is a bit like drilling out mortices - it looks a good idea but in reality doesn't help and may hinder.
I'd probably agree. I'm talking about bench joiner's mortices up to 1/2". Yes - above that becomes much more difficult. In fact I've never seen above 5/8" mortice chisel of the familiar deep blade/ oval bolster shape. Do they exist or do they just become large firmers?MikeG.":4207021g said:ED65":4207021g said:.........I'd agree with your last point here, but with a firm emphasis on may. That is not to say it doesn't help, it most definitely can. And not only for the amateur who chops out mortises infrequently. Plenty of pros do it at least some of the time, evidently they think the technique has value; and actually the method goes back to before electric drills so no 'modern fad' accusations please........Jacob":4207021g said:Coping saw is a bit like drilling out mortices - it looks a good idea but in reality doesn't help and may hinder.
You can't really do timber framing work without drilling out the mortices first. Making a 3 inch wide mortice without pre-drilling would be a real task. I have opened out 700+ year old mortices in oak framing and found drill marks in the bottom, so if it was good enough for them, it's good enough for me. It wouldn't be the first time that Jacob has been absolutist, and over-generalised.
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