Cop 29

[Croolis]

Agreed. remind me...just how much energy did we get from renewables over the last week or so? Note to self....buy more candles.

Let me press some buttons for you:

https://www.energydashboard.co.uk/historical

Historical screen working OK, live screen seems to be having some problems this second.

Lots more gas than wind. EDIT: Over the last week, that is. If you choose a 90 days or more timescale, there's more wind than gas.

At the moment. First time I've looked at that site in years. The mix is quite different from when I last looked IIRC. We need more nuclear. It's very ughhh, don;t like the waste aspects of it. The cost is just something that needs to be borne. The ridiculous time it takes to get new plants online needs to be improved. Unsure about this small modular nuclear thing that's been bandied about more recently.

 

[Delaney]

You mean the guy with 12? kids, who runs a rocket company and also sells luxury EV cars, now including the Cybertruck which is massively un-green, who also actively campaigned to prevent hi-speed rail in California with a promise of some nonsense so he could sell more cars?

Unless you want your offspring to fry from climate change instigated by the sun imploding, you should be thankful someone is building rockets.

 

[RobinBHM]

Unless you want your offspring to fry from climate change instigated by the sun imploding, you should be thankful someone is building rockets.

climate is caused by man not the sun

A billionaires ego won’t improve things

 

[RobinBHM]

In terms of electricity production, renewables generated more than fossil fuels over the last year.

37% renewables
28% fossil fuels

https://grid.iamkate.com/

 

[Croolis]

Another thing with all this, of course, is that energy production, which everyone loves to talk about because it's relatively simple to do so, is only part of the problem. Concrete production, chemical production, planetary surface albedo change, nitrogen. plastics, could go on and on.

We could invent fusion power tomorrow and we'd still be in it up to our necks.

 

[Agent_zed]

Unless you want your offspring to fry from climate change instigated by the sun imploding, you should be thankful someone is building rockets.

Are you joking????

Let's assume you are being serious..

So we currently know of no known life on any planet within our solar system. The next nearest solar system is Proxima Centauri which is the nearest star to our sun at 4.22 light-years away.

That means you'd have to have a spaceship travelling at light speed for 4.22 years!

Light speed is 3x10(8) m/s (300000000m/s) the fastest space vehicle (unmanned probe) is going 635,266km/h ( 176,462m/s). Note the difference in speed, (my maths isn't great so hopefully this is correct). It's about 2000x slower than lightspeed.

So we should be able to get to a solar system that we don't know supports life in about 8440 years with current speeds of an unmanned probe. We haven't even managed to go to Mars which is 6 months away

I'm sure my great x I can't even work out how many generations that would be grandkids (which won't be on a tiny spacecraft as it won't be taking the entire of the human race with it) will thank Elon Musk.

So far most of Elon's rockets have rapidly self disassembled so the idea that SpaceX is suddenly going to be able to build a lightspeed capable spaceship in the next 100 years is amusing.

Perhaps instead of his massive waste of resources for a vanity project he could spend money on sustainable energy, recycling, education, health, public transport, re-greening, stopping deforestation etc etc.

Oh yeah he isn't interested in any of those things because then he would have to actually spend money on useful things. Instead he is going to continue fleecing the US government and preventing public transport so he can sell cars, whilst pretending he is some super genius. He is a business man, he isn't a genius. The only things that have been successful were designed before or without his input. Everything that he has pushed - the cybertruck, hyperloop, the tunnel road thing, have been failures.

According to scientists our sun will die in about 5 billion years time so we might have some time to figure stuff out if we can stop morons like Musk destroying the environment to make money.

We have ONE PLANET!!!!!

 

[Phil Pascoe]

According to scientists our sun will die in about 5 billion years time ...

According to scientists we'd be heading into an ice age by now.

 

[Agent_zed]

According to scientists we'd be heading into an ice age by now.

You do realise that Musk employs scientists don't you. Who do you think is doing the research and calculations?

So do we distrust scientists that say the things we don't want to hear but trust the ones that work for the richest man in the world?

It's always funny when I see unquestioning blind trust put into Musk as though he isn't using the same science as everyone else. If he was some religious leader offering a non-science solution to the worlds problem I could understand, but he is using Rocket Scientists to make rockets (badly as most of them have exploded).

For fun let's not listen to 'scientists', let's listen to the fossil fuel industry back in the 1977. What's that they say? oh burning loads of fossil fuels is likely to cause global climatic change.... https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/exxon-knew-about-climate-change-almost-40-years-ago/

 

[Chris152]

For fun let's not listen to 'scientists', let's listen to the fossil fuel industry back in the 1977. What's that they say? oh burning loads of fossil fuels is likely to cause global climatic change.... https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/exxon-knew-about-climate-change-almost-40-years-ago/

That's pretty shocking. Not surprising, but definitely shocking. And still ordinary lay persons seem happy to wind-up confusion/ disinformation.

 

[Spectric]

That means you'd have to have a spaceship travelling at light speed for 4.22 years!

Not if you fold time because then you have warp drive !

 

[Agent_zed]

Not if you fold time because then you have warp drive !

That is the only theoretically/imaginary? way to travel such distances, but seeing as Musk can't even make a truck that doesn't have bits that fall off or completely fails if it drives through water, despite 'knowing more about manufacturing than anyone alive', I'm not going to wait with much hope for that to happen.

Can you imagine being stuck on a spacecraft for months/years with that silly person. He'd probably claim to know more about piloting a spacecraft than any other person alive and drive you through a planet.