DrPhill
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You need help with your search skills:. I looked very hard to try and find Jacob's beloved 'Upper class'. Not there.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upper_class
You need help with your search skills:. I looked very hard to try and find Jacob's beloved 'Upper class'. Not there.
You seem obsessed with people who were privately educated, seeing private education as a vehicle upon which to better one's life and yet currently, the second most powerful politician in this government comes from a very humble background indeed after leaving school with very little by way of academic achievement and yet it hasn't held good old Angela back now has it?
We are so grateful!
Yes and the better off pay for private health care in order to relieve the public sector.
Or shop in Harrods to avoid getting in our way as we wander desperately around Aldi.
Or holiday in far away places in order not to overcrowd the beach in Skegness.
.......a very silly list possible here!
Drive around in BMWs in order to leave cycle lanes less crowded?
Any more suggestions anybody?
And untalented people with wealth and privilege are elevated into positions of power and responsibility far beyond their intellects and ability. Johnson, Cameron, Fartrage spring to mind. Another list of complete s**theads possible here!
The resentment is clear. Parents understandably want the best education for their children. Those who can afford it, pay.
We are so grateful!
Yes and the better off pay for private health care in order to relieve the public sector.
Or shop in Harrods to avoid getting in our way as we wander desperately around Aldi.
Or holiday in far away places in order not to overcrowd the beach in Skegness.
.......a very silly list possible here!
Drive around in BMWs in order to leave cycle lanes less crowded?
Any more suggestions anybody?
And untalented people with wealth and privilege are elevated into positions of power and responsibility far beyond their intellects and ability. Johnson, Cameron, Fartrage spring to mind. Another list of complete s**theads possible here!
I was referring to your little chart you linked to in post 550. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upper_classYou need help with your search skills:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upper_class
I did read that some councils are getting concerned about the weight of EVs in multi-storey car parks. It could result in fewer spaces to limit the weight per floor. That EVs are still evolving is obvious. but we could do with some serious leaps in battery design or hydrogen power before I'll change my petrol ICE.When I looked the other day only 14% of the electricity consumed in the UK was Fossil Fuel (Gas) the rest was mostly Wind plus Nuclear and some Solar. Far better though to have that 14% pollution away from ground level in our towns and cities to be breathed in by the public?
They do but that’s changing. Actually, if you look at a well designed car like a Tesla Model 3 you’ll see it weighs about the same as a comparable size Mercedes or BMW. In fact it can be a few pounds less than some Diesel models. EV’s like Tesla’s also produce much less brake dust (also a problem) than ICE vehicles due to regeneration.
Of course nobody ever complained about big heavy polluting cars like Range Rovers causing road damage and tyre pollution. I read a while ago than in spite of tighter emission regulations in Europe, pollution actually went up due to both cars and engines getting bigger and heavier.
Politicians most obviously, just think Johnson, Cameron, for starters! Also seems to be a feature of law and finance.Suggesting some politicians by virtue of their education privilege and money are elevated to positions far beyond their intellect and ability is ridiculous.
But more forgivable than greed and self-righteousness..... The definition of envy is resentment or sadness at another's good fortune or excellence, with an often insatiable desire to have it for oneself. Usually regarded as an unpleasant characteristic.
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I can't talk for all the left-leaning contributors to this thread(although I suspect some would agree with me), but while I rail against the rampant inequality in this country, it has nothing to do with personal envy. I live in a fairly large, character dwelling in the Cotswolds AONB, with a sizeable paddock for the grandchildren to play in. I have no desire to shop at Harrods, nor to drive BMWs, although I could if it meant that much to me. I'm nowhere near sea level, so not in imminent danger from rising oceans. So I'm alright, Jack, but that doesn't blind me to the fact that the dice are loaded in favour of the rich, and that inequality is increasing.The resentment is clear. Parents understandably want the best education for their children. Those who can afford it, pay.
State secondary funding is ~£7500 pa per pupil. Private school fees are an average of £18000 pa - with considerable variation around that. Private schools have smaller class sizes, extra tutoring for those less gifted, better facilities (sports, arts etc) unaffordable by the state sector.
Overall private materially outperforms state in exam results, and I suspect in preparing kids (social skills etc) for subsequent careers. State schools may be excellent, add more value, etc, but without more funding are unlikely to deliver equal/better output.
That some are able to shop at Harrods, drive BMWs, take fancy holidays, live in big houses simply evidences a capacity to pay for something better or more desirable. The definition of envy is resentment or sadness at another's good fortune or excellence, with an often insatiable desire to have it for oneself. Usually regarded as an unpleasant characteristic.
Suggesting some politicians by virtue of their education privilege and money are elevated to positions far beyond their intellect and ability is ridiculous.
It seems unlikely it evidences of some sort of intellectual genetic deficiency compared to the state educated as they or their ancestors must have had some exceptional talent to so thrive.
Mostly they get there because they are better educated, with better developed skills. You are at liberty to (of course) disagree with their political views.
Well exactly. I'm not hard up either, or envious, beyond being slightly pi ssed off about property prices meaning that I've never had a good work space for long which I could afford.I can't talk for all the left-leaning contributors to this thread(although I suspect some would agree with me), but while I rail against the rampant inequality in this country, it has nothing to do with personal envy. I live in a fairly large, character dwelling in the Cotswolds AONB, with a sizeable paddock for the grandchildren to play in. I have no desire to shop at Harrods, nor to drive BMWs, although I could if it meant that much to me. I'm nowhere near sea level, so not in imminent danger from rising oceans. So I'm alright, Jack, but that doesn't blind me to the fact that the dice are loaded in favour of the rich, and that inequality is increasing.
It has, I repeat, nothing to do with personal envy.
That Tiny Tim Cratchit! Envious little ******* - should have snapped out of it and got a job. He was thin enough to make a perfect chimney sweep!Bah! Humbug!
I am reasonably well off too. I am educated to post doc level in one discipline and to HNC in my second career (which made more money than the first).The resentment is clear. Parents understandably want the best education for their children. Those who can afford it, pay.
State secondary funding is ~£7500 pa per pupil. Private school fees are an average of £18000 pa - with considerable variation around that. Private schools have smaller class sizes, extra tutoring for those less gifted, better facilities (sports, arts etc) unaffordable by the state sector.
Overall private materially outperforms state in exam results, and I suspect in preparing kids (social skills etc) for subsequent careers. State schools may be excellent, add more value, etc, but without more funding are unlikely to deliver equal/better output.
That some are able to shop at Harrods, drive BMWs, take fancy holidays, live in big houses simply evidences a capacity to pay for something better or more desirable. The definition of envy is resentment or sadness at another's good fortune or excellence, with an often insatiable desire to have it for oneself. Usually regarded as an unpleasant characteristic.
Suggesting some politicians by virtue of their education privilege and money are elevated to positions far beyond their intellect and ability is ridiculous.
It seems unlikely it evidences of some sort of intellectual genetic deficiency compared to the state educated as they or their ancestors must have had some exceptional talent to so thrive.
Mostly they get there because they are better educated, with better developed skills. You are at liberty to (of course) disagree with their political views.
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