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Colin C":vchuoodx said:
Alf":vchuoodx said:
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Just had a sudden urge to post that. Can't think why... :whistle:
=D> :whistle:
Agree. I'll stop now!

cheers
Jacob
 
Right. Wrap it up folks. Mr Grimsdale and ByronBlack, can I ask you, kindly, if you could take a step back from this post. If noone else has anything to say, then this post can be considered to have worked itself through. (I'm loathe to lock it... but its getting dangerously close)

Adam
 
Well guys (and girls) had no idea that a simple request for advice would turn into such a marathon and take a on life of its own even if somewhat off topic.

As Adam suggests I think that this post can be considered worked through - at least from my point of view. As stated in an earlier reply from me I am now looking at getting a few better quality chisels e.g. the 2 cherries after getting recommendation here (and other searches).
Interesting point on polished vs non polished cherries! Better not ask for advice on that :)

Thanks again for all your help and advice - Ill be back!

Tony
 
If I had to spend more than a minute getting a chisel ready it would drive me bonkers let alone 2 hours.

I'm with Mr Grim by the way, £187 for chisels is outrageous. :shock:
£35 for 6 marples chisels would do you fine.
 
TonyW":1eiafxnm said:
Interesting point on polished vs non polished cherries! Better not ask for advice on that :)

assuming (disclaimer I wouldn't normally bother with) you wish to work the backs of your chisels to a high degree of flat polished perfection at some stage, it's MUCH less work to remove the grind marks from the unpolished versions than to remove the rounded corners from the polished versions, which is the deeper reason for the recommendation.

BugBear
 
Well OK, granted, but I've got the polished variety, and did flatten then backs a little, and heres some of the projects I've turned out since then....

Heres one of those exact ones (even the box in the background), doing some general bashing.

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Which turned into this:

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And I cleaned up all the dovetails on this:

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So... if I bought again, sure I'd buy the non-polished ones, but at the same time, I don't think I'm concerned about the polished versions I currently have. My skills still don't outbalance the chisels.

Adam
 
Adam can we see some more pics of this
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That beats many of the things I've seen the threads on interesting furniture. I'ts just stunning. Did you design it?

PS sorry for going off topic. Here's my pic to get back on topic
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I've just ordered a 1" that LN have just started to sell, it's not included in the sets and it's not on sale here yet. :lol:
 
Adam":1pxjjc0x said:
Well OK, granted, but I've got the polished variety, and did flatten then backs a little, and heres some of the projects I've turned out since then....

(pics of excellent stuff brutally deleted)

So... if I bought again, sure I'd buy the non-polished ones, but at the same time, I don't think I'm concerned about the polished versions I currently have. My skills still don't outbalance the chisels.

Adam

Abso-fruiting-lootly. The ONLY consequence of the polished (and hence slightly rounded) backs is that the edge doesn't go absolutely all the way to the corners of the chisel.

In practice this is rarely required. For example, when cleaning a DT tail base, the DT sawcut actually defines the extreme corners of the tail (this is also why you can get away with bevel edged chisels where the edges are (in fact) quite chunky).

The "non-polished are better" statement should not obscure the fact the the polished ones are pretty darn good.

BugBear
 
Lord Nibbo":3mvsiw9b said:
I'ts just stunning. Did you design it?

[Heres me blatantly deviating the topic from its original start point] Thank you & Yes. I sort of knew what I wanted to do as I went along, but it did just moorph slightly due to A) mistakes & B) seeing how it was coming along. Someone posted a link above I think. The design was just something I had in my mind, and needed to "let out". Its dead comfy - nearly everyone who sits on it comments on that.

Adam
 
Adam
As Lord Nibbo said "That stool is stunning". I hope that I can achieve that level of workmanship in the future (I have a long way to go).
 
Tony are the chisels made in the Czech republic, Narex available in the UK. They are not obviously LN but decent quality and quite reasonable, at least here in Canada. They are hardened to Rockwell 59 and seem to be highly fucntional and easy to use, at least I like them.
 
These days I buy most of my chisels from second-hand shops. Most have lots of them and, if you have a rummage, you can often find some real gems amongst all the dross and at a fraction of the cost of good new ones :D

Adam, that stool is a real cracker.

Cheers :wink:

Paul
 
Paul Chapman":3kkz2th6 said:
These days I buy most of my chisels from second-hand shops. Most have lots of them and, if you have a rummage, you can often find some real gems amongst all the dross and at a fraction of the cost of good new ones :D

Indeed. I have zero LN chisels, and zero Axminster cheapies.

I do have Sorby, Ward & Payne, Ibbotson, Stormount...

BugBear
 
bugbear":9h2qrn9r said:
I do have Sorby, Ward & Payne, Ibbotson, Stormount...

Snap :D The last three I found were Sorby, Ibbotson (both pig stickers) and a very nice Marples bevel edge with box wood handle. And all for only a few pounds :D

Cheers :wink:

Paul
 
Paul Chapman":256cdn7q said:
bugbear":256cdn7q said:
I do have Sorby, Ward & Payne, Ibbotson, Stormount...

Snap :D The last three I found were Sorby, Ibbotson (both pig stickers) and a very nice Marples bevel edge with box wood handle. And all for only a few pounds :D

Cheers :wink:

Paul

So - are cheap chisels any good?

BugBear (teasing)
 
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