Chisel and Plane Blade Honing Guide Angle Jigs with measurements; Veritas, Marples, and Eclipse.

[Eshmiel]

Thanks for your offer, feel free to drop in, but my edges are at last truly sharp so there are no issues on that front!
But I could show you how to sharpen things the easy way - it probably takes about 20 minutes to get the idea and another half hour to get good at it.
The main thing for you struggling sharpeners to get over is repeatedly telling yourselves that you can't do it! It's a bit like riding a bike - apparently training wheels actually slow down a kid's development, but once you've got it (without gadgets) it's for life.
How on earth would you manage without the gadgets if you found yourself on an urgent job with just a medium grit oil stone?

I try not to become involved with "urgent".

You may be right about my being over-wary of hand sharpening. I like the feeling of certainty awarded by me gubbins-things, as they work well and provide also a reason to read the likes of Brent Beach and Herr Kollerott.

Although I've ridden a bike probably well into a hundred thousand miles or more (still riding four of them, me) I'm still ever so wary of all sorts of cycling behaviours one may observe. On the other hand, I've developed a riding style that's not only safe but rapid and very enjoyable. I never bother with riding it with no hands or over the black ice, for example, even though I know fellows who can and do - and they still live - albeit with quite a few gravel-rash scars.

You still haven't "got" the attraction of WW gadgets, eh? There can be a lot more to woodworking than woodworking, see? For we amateurs and hobbyists at least. For me, time is not money and is not wasted as I phart about with a gubbins. Its play, just like the woodwork-proper.

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This discussion does beg the question: what other modern conveniences do you reject as false convenience? I have a few of those myself, with the smartphone (any phone, in fact) top of the list. I have spend decades also without a car as I see them as dangerous and polluting. Foreign holidays via aeroplanes? No thenk yew. Etc..

Presumably you are still walking everywhere in bare feet?

 

[BentonTool]

Thanks for your offer, feel free to drop in, but my edges are at last truly sharp so there are no issues on that front!
But I could show you how to sharpen things the easy way - it probably takes about 20 minutes to get the idea and another half hour to get good at it.
The main thing for you struggling sharpeners to get over is repeatedly telling yourselves that you can't do it! It's a bit like riding a bike - apparently training wheels actually slow down a kid's development, but once you've got it (without gadgets) it's for life.
How on earth would you manage without the gadgets if you found yourself on an urgent job with just a medium grit oil stone?

IMHO, There are virtues and merits to both methods...
As has been said before, do whatever works for you...
Or better yet, perhaps a mix of the two, as do I...

 

[bbtex]

No one can be a better Jacob than Jacob, who is an interesting fellow and without the sort of rancour expressed by some of his detractors. Well I like him, although I suspect he's not in need of being liked by everyone he meets. I notice that he doesn't flounce and pout when offered alternative views, unlike some.

I feel that I should be hearing you shouting ‘Who’s that trip trapping over my bridge?’

 

[Jacob]

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You still haven't "got" the attraction of WW gadgets, eh? There can be a lot more to woodworking than woodworking, see? For we amateurs and hobbyists at least. For me, time is not money and is not wasted as I phart about with a gubbins. Its play, just like the woodwork-proper.

OK I accept that modern sharpening is pharting about.
Does this mean you'd switch to serious sharpening if the need arose; if you got a bit more serious about woodwork for instance?

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This discussion does beg the question: what other modern conveniences do you reject as false convenience?

A big subject.

Presumably you are still walking everywhere in bare feet?

No, nor with footwear re-imagined and designed by Veritas!

 

[Eshmiel]

I feel that I should be hearing you shouting ‘Who’s that trip trapping over my bridge?’

It that the splash of chum hitting the UKW waters? Yes, it is! But I feel that you should now row away with your barrel of rotted fish remarks to elsewhere, as I'm not biting. Jacob and I are having a conversation and your stinky splashing is distracting.