Jacob
New Luddism. Awake and resist!
That article by Jamie Driscoll might help you too. Here's the link again https://www.facebook.com/JamieDriscollNE
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AJB Temple
Finely figured
I think the left leaning club need to do kissy kissy for each other. Go for it fella's.
Hypnotic Chimera
Directional Consultant Extraordinaire
We already are. We're leftys. You're included too. Even if you don't wanna be. Kissy kissy.
selectortone
Still waking up not dead in the morning
Give us a kiss
What is it about the right leaners that they are always moaning and complaining about anyone left leaning.
They've had 15 years of a right wing government and the country and economy has been left in tatters. Yet all we hear is them whining about how bad the left is.
Hypnotic Chimera
Directional Consultant Extraordinaire
I couldn't possibly answer that because I think that we are wired up differently.
Not saying that's a bad thing. We are all different and that should be celebrated.
Oh, I almost forgot , kissy kissy, lol.
Phil Pascoe
Established Member
That's the problem - we haven't.
News to me
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niemeyjt
Established Member
It is reported (but without a name, so might just be fake news) that the first suicide has happened to avoid the taxes.
As I say, without more details it may just be fake news - however, nearer April when the tax comes in we may see a few decide that dying early is a way to save their farms for the next generation.
As I say, without more details it may just be fake news - however, nearer April when the tax comes in we may see a few decide that dying early is a way to save their farms for the next generation.
Phil Pascoe
Established Member
It might be news to you but they were voted out not because they were right wing but because they weren't. They were on a downhill slope since Cameron became a Tony Blair tribute act.
For someone who you think may not think at all, he does rather well for himself, doesn't he?
RobinBHM
Established Member
The last 15 years has seen a massive increase in wealth inequality.
The wealthy have massively increased their wealth
The ordinary working person has seen their standard of living plummet.
That’s been caused by free market neoliberalism: ie right wing.
The irony Phil is you are a tribal Tory who has spent your life voting against your best interests.
John Brown
Freeloading Social media influenza
IMO, "Lefties" seem to have a bit more compassion for others, even if they happen to be poorer, or gay or whatever, whereas right leaners are more concerned with their own situation. A sweeping generalisation, I know, and I'm not saying either is better.
Phil Pascoe
Established Member
I'm not a Tory, just not a socialist.
Incidentally, the last time we had a government like this (('70s) the Country's economy did really well, didn't it? Or are you too young to remember the IMF?
AJB Temple
Finely figured
Re my earlier comment on the straw suckers, I see the MSM have woken up to the clueless Steve Reed's impressive farming background. Tone deaf and gurning in his £400 French wellies. 
Hypnotic Chimera
Directional Consultant Extraordinaire
That's patently not true. The reasons why Tory didn't do so well at the recent election are legion. "Not being right" is not one of them.
Hypnotic Chimera
Directional Consultant Extraordinaire
That's patently not true either. This govt is nothing much at all like "the 70s".
What you wrote just makes it appear that you are trying to label something as "a thing that it isn't" in order that you can unfairly criticise and denigrate that thing for being "the thing that it isn't". It's a warped version of ad hominem attack, but setting up the ad hominem with a false equivalence.
Jacob
New Luddism. Awake and resist!
You've been reading the Torygraph again! It's not doing you any good.Re my earlier comment on the straw suckers, I see the MSM have woken up to the clueless Steve Reed's impressive farming background. Tone deaf and gurning in his £400 French wellies.
Jacob
New Luddism. Awake and resist!
Right. You think we should pay full whack individually for pubic services we receive? Can you afford it? I couldn't and I don't know many who could.
I remember the 70s well. Wasn't doing too badly at all. Small business but had to stop trading in 79 with Thatcher's first recession. A lot of small businesses went the same way with the advent of austerity and the 45 years of economic decline which followed.
IMF generally regarded as a a neo-liberal disaster: https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2020/11/26/it-is-time-to-decolonise-the-world-bank-and-the-imf
ey_tony
Established Member
What exactly is wrong with wealth inequality?
It doesn't matter what the top earners get, it's what the rest of the people get which is the critical factor and has the most bearing on the quality of life of the average person. Wealth inequality is a nonsense argument of the hard of thinking.
As for quality of life, all I've seen so far from this government is a damaging budget where the private sector has been hit with unprecedented taxes to fund the public sector's 5.9 million workers.
I don't see any measures they've taken that would encourage economic growth which was promised. Starmer and his cronies blatantly lied to the British people who are going to be decidedly poorer as a result of their lies, increased taxation and inflation which will inevitably follow.
Just to add balance:
Since 2008 there have been three periods of recession, the first crash/recession under Gordon no more boom and bust Brown which he was warned about 18 months earlier about by none other than Vince Cable who asked him in the HOC how he proposed to mitigate the effects of the impending sub prime crash that was about to happen. Brown poo poo'd him and said "what crash?"
We all know what happened there! Brown could have taken steps earlier to mitigate the effects but was up to his eyes in hock to the lenders so couldn't do anything.
Enter the Coalition in 2010. They had to make some serious decisions and all was going to plan until 2011 when the Euro went into free fall almost dragging the UK into another recession.
2019 everything was looking as though the UK passed through the worst and then what happens? We have the world recession due to Covid. It was an unprecedented situation, not experienced by any government for over a century.
We then get to 2022 and just as things were beginning to ameliorate Europe is faced with another recession due to Russia invading Ukraine.
I'm not a Tory fan as such as they have morphed into a party more akin to socialists than traditional Tories but I have to defend them as the problems they faced during their period in office were not of their own making and when I hear the hard of thinking anti-Tory garbage being spouted, it prompts me to address the rectal verbosity of those who do it!
It's not hard to see why living standards have been falling.
From 2000 to 2010 the population grew by 5.3%. From 2010 to 2020 the population grew by 7.7%. From 2010 to the present the population growth was 9.9%.
There simply hasn't been the infrastructure provision/investment to keep pace with the growth in population so it's little wonder why people are finding their living standards are falling and yet the hard of thinking still want yet more people to keep pouring in!
Since just before the 2010 election, borrowing ( credit card economics) was used to cover day to day living expenses to effectively fund unaffordable polices which should have been either severely cut back or removed completely but we all know that would be a vote loser.
The fact is that the country has been living above its means and now we are seeing the result of buy now pay later credit card economics.
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