Blood is thicker than water and so is Dulux

[RossJarvis]

Dulux Emulsion, what's that about then? It appears to be thickened water with a small amount of glue and pigment added.

One very expensive pot of 5 litres won't even do two coats on a 10' by 10' room with lots of holes in it and even after two coats you can still see through it.

Bitter......Me.....

 

[Silas Gull]

Poor coverage, eh? What colour is the paint? And what is the state of the substrate?
Did you give it a good stir, sir?

 

[gregmcateer]

Yeah, I was thinking the same as Silas Gull. I've not normally had problems with Dulux, Crown, Johnstone and the likes.
If it was brand new plaster, always water back first coat or seal with weak PVA.
If you were painting over an old /previously painted wall, did you sugar soap and rinse it all down first? If not, it won't adhere well.
Also, leave enough time for the first coat to dry.
If you did it all correctly, take what's left back and ask for a refund

 

[Phil Pascoe]

Use "Diamond" eggshell.

 

[Vic Perrin]

Just done the hall, stairs and landing with Dulux Once. Superb Finish! with just one coat and only used half of a 5 lt can. A little bit more expensive than the standard paint but the results were well worth it.

Vic

 

[bugbear]

Agreed - never had a problem with "good brand" paint. Paint is chemistry, and modern chemist are jolly clever.

About the only problem is the modern "one coat" paints - the compromises to make this are too much IMHO, although it's amazing they could do it at all.

BugBear

 

[RogerS]

Ross, are you sure you've not been reading my mind?

I have an idea for a great business. I'll dream up some really good colours. Then I'll get some water and add a tiny bit of colouring to it. I'll call it 'paint' and sell it at a premium. The fact that dark undercoat after two coats still doesn't cover the existing white is neither nor there. I'll call the business Farrow & Ball.

Then I'll develop a water-based gloss but I'll forget to mention that if you brush it up and down more than once then when it dries, you get a mixed coat of matt (where you brushed it more than once) and gloss. Even the customer service rep I spoke to admitted to having a problem using their gloss.

 

[ColeyS1]

I have an idea for a great business. I'll dream up some really good colours. Then I'll get some water and add a tiny bit of colouring to it. I'll call it 'paint' and sell it at a premium. The fact that dark undercoat after two coats still doesn't cover the existing white is neither nor there. I'll call the business Farrow & Ball.

:lol: I like that, having used the paint myself I know exactly what you mean. You forgot to add the similarity to antivandal paint, it never dries :roll:

 

[Zeddedhed]

Farrow and Ball paints are worse than monkey spit.

 

[novocaine]

an ex friend of mine admitted he used to buy a tub of paint, use half, fill it with water and take it back to whichever warehouse he got it from. could be the reason you are getting crap coverage.

note, EX friend.

 

[RossJarvis]

Definitely stirred well, walls rubbed down with sander and sugar soaped to be sure to be sure, the original paint doesn't seem too different in tone or colour, new plaster was painted with diluted paint to seal. With two coats it seems generally okay but there are still the odd patches if you look closely where the coverage is a bit weak. Maybe I'm just a numpty but I hate the stuff. I thought the Crown I put on the ceiling was rubbish too :x

 

[Wuffles]

Johnstones Paint Centres offer a Farrow & Ball "equivalent" colour. Give them the colour name or number and they mix it for you, normally around £20+vat for 5 litres in Matt (if you have an account at least). They do a super Matt which is similar to the F&B Estate emulsion too, but it's more money and almost resembles dark matter in terms of shine once dry. The Matt is normally enough.

Seems a decent enough paint to me. Oh, and they normally deliver for nothing too.

 

[RossJarvis]

Ross, are you sure you've not been reading my mind?

I have an idea for a great business. I'll dream up some really good colours. Then I'll get some water and add a tiny bit of colouring to it. I'll call it 'paint' and sell it at a premium. The fact that dark undercoat after two coats still doesn't cover the existing white is neither nor there. I'll call the business Farrow & Ball.

Then I'll develop a water-based gloss but I'll forget to mention that if you brush it up and down more than once then when it dries, you get a mixed coat of matt (where you brushed it more than once) and gloss. Even the customer service rep I spoke to admitted to having a problem using their gloss.

I'd heard they had problems with the gloss never actually going hard. I'm wondering if it's similar to Sikkens Rubbol. I've been doing windows with that lately, and even if you leave it more than a week it can start bonding to parts in tight contact, even though it feels totally dry. (admittedly this is not thickened water, I think it's thickened white spirit).

Me-thinks the Eco-brigade lot in Brussels are coming up with regs to stop anything work......at all

 

[ColeyS1]

+1 to that. They'll ban farting soon, or try taxing us for letting one go

 

[Phil Pascoe]

Brussels doesn't work, and they're going to make sure nothing else does as well.

 

[RogerS]

I forgot to mention the 'Added-Value' to my new paint range. As the F&B gloss paint dries and converts to a gloss finish, it takes on the surface finish of silicon rubber. Seeing as how it's a water based paint and you need to put on two coats, I thought it would be rather fun to force my users to sand the first coat down to give a key for the second coat. That will really hack them off. Especially if the door has lots of mouldings :evil: DAMHIKT

 

[RossJarvis]

I forgot to mention the 'Added-Value' to my new paint range. As the F&B gloss paint dries and converts to a gloss finish, it takes on the surface finish of silicon rubber. Seeing as how it's a water based paint and you need to put on two coats, I thought it would be rather fun to force my users to sand the first coat down to give a key for the second coat. That will really hack them off. Especially if the door has lots of mouldings :evil: DAMHIKT

Strangely enough, Sikkens Rubbol has a completely non stick surface, this may be why the top top coat never seems to set.............maybe it's called Rubbol, because you've gotta b****y rub it down every coat :x :x :x

 

[graduate_owner]

I remember trying to cover a wall which had orange paint on, looked awful and I wanted to change to magnolia (yes I know, common as muck). I gave it coat after coat of Leyland emulsion but the orange was still there, showing through in nice clear patches. I gave it one coat of Crown and that was it - well covered in one coat.

K