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Maybe we should have had a more lenient lockdown like Japan then? Fanatics won't like it

Twitter quotes are not the bigger picture. He is not giving us numbers of people, the situation in all the hospitals, the level of healthy staff who are off work but not ill etc. Its not the big picture. If you want to argue that we need the sledgehammer of lockdown everywhere then you need...

Of course you can identify vulnerable people you daft man.

This isn't what I said. Argue the data not chit chat of "long queues" etc.

It totally depends on the country and the way their viral seasons have evolved. Its not about hot or cold weather per se, and I didn't claim it was. Viral seasons are different for each country - we know when our European viral season is

No I mean both. I am not claiming they are the same. There are some people that will be who will be infected and not symptomatic (although this data is in a mess because a lot of people without symptoms were having tests). We pretend these people are "ill" but it goes against all our...

This the same Japan that didn't lockdown. Funny that...

Isn't it obvious to you already? There are reams and reams of data. Just look at the statistics. Outside the obvious peak in April how many people are dying? About .1-.2%, maybe even less. Of which the vast majority are old. Sad of course but for some it will have been a release as well given...

Look at my chart above from Wales for just one local example. It doesn't grow exponentially. It never did in places where they didn't lockdown. You don't even understand what exponential means There is loads of evidence that it doesn't grow exponentially. It ebbs and flows.

You can claim it is emerging data. but then you would also be guilty of ignoring all the history of immunology . Covid is a nasty virus - but it is not that special or innovative over and above any other. If you want to correlate lockdown and lower admissions then you need to also correlate...

Mass testing of students before Xmas? Come on. That is not monitoring a virus. Testing everyone - whether they are ill or not before Xmas is not monitoring a virus. Do the same test on a town and you will get the same data. Robin is convinced it is not seasonal yet cannot explain the lack of...

You don't provide any evidence for lockdown. Just unattributed quotes from Sage or a scientist. I've shown you lots of evidence that curves fall before lockdowns but it doesn't fit your dream of exponential viral growth (which by the way hasn't happened anywhere in the world - it has ebbed and...

Because its unproven. It defies scientific reasoning because and because it is not provable or disprovable, it is not a logical reason. Virus ebbs and flows. Do you see the waves peaking before lockdown in my chart on Wales? Them's the facts

Happily ignored. Stay in your bedroom

In Europe covid cases declined in the whole of Europe in the summer season In Europe the Covid death rates declined massively in the summer season, regardless of lockdown strategy. It couldn't be more obvious that transmission is seasonal. All these types of virus become seasonal. This is the...

Minimum lockdown yes. Stop posting that more lockdown = less admissions. This is not factually correct.

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No I think they should shield themselves as much as possible. I don't think we should stop children going to school or destroy business' to get there. Why? Because we need money to be able to help those vulnerable people You are wilfully ignoring the harms of lockdown.

You will see eventually that is is seasonal now, its so blindingly obvious. We are seeing a classic gompertz curve now. Most people are immune anyway. The data shows that. And those who are not immune are overwhelmingly likely not to become too ill.

And that is fine to have some degree of restriction and advice. It is not fine to destroy business', jobs and schools. It really isn't. So much of this current "wave" is getting mixed in with other normal respiratory problems.