Wooden vice thread set

[Jester129]

Has anyone got a 1 1/2" or 1 1/4" thread-making kit that I could buy please? I'm after both the tap and the die.
I've found one online, but then thought about you folk on here that have all sorts of things. They are quite pricey new, but are the kind of things you buy and are almost a single use purchase, making them even more expensive, so now is a chance to recoup some of your outlay if you have one and are happy to sell it?
While I'm at it, does anyone know where I could get a dowel of hardwood slightly over-size? I can of course make one, that would of course be cheaper.
This makes me sound like a real cheapskate, doesn't it? I'm not really, but everyone likes to save money where they can, right? Please PM me if you can help.
Thankyou in eager anticipation.

Jester

 

[Cabinetman]

It’s the sort of thing that would be good to hire I suppose. Doubt anybody does though- sorry I can’t help, and no that’s not being tight, just practical.
Ian

 

[duke]

Has anyone got a 1 1/2" or 1 1/4" thread-making kit that I could buy please? I'm after both the tap and the die.
I've found one online, but then thought about you folk on here that have all sorts of things. They are quite pricey new, but are the kind of things you buy and are almost a single use purchase, making them even more expensive, so now is a chance to recoup some of your outlay if you have one and are happy to sell it?
While I'm at it, does anyone know where I could get a dowel of hardwood slightly over-size? I can of course make one, that would of course be cheaper.
This makes me sound like a real cheapskate, doesn't it? I'm not really, but everyone likes to save money where they can, right? Please PM me if you can help.
Thankyou in eager anticipation.

Jester

Try looking on Marketplace, many use full things for free. This past winter saw and ad for engineered siding. Big pile covered in snow, took two trips with my pickup to get it home. Going to use it inside the barn. The goats deserve better. Calculated the cost would have been $2,400.

 

[Jester129]

I've looked on FB. It's quite a specialised item, nothing on Gumtree either. I'll leave it for a few days, just in case someone comes forward. There's no rush. If I have to bite the bullet and buy a set, at least I know where to look! Okay, practical it is, or even prudently hopeful!
@ Duke, you got lucky with that one! I wish we had the choice (and prices) that you have on your side of the pond.
As I say, no rush.

 

[recipio]

I've got a set going from 1/2 " up to 1 1/4 " . Can't remember where I bought them but they are surprisingly useful. They are all maple and seem to come out of the same factory in Taiwan. I use the 1" to attach a pedestal leg to Shaker candle stands and they are rock solid. It's worth investing in one diameter - preferably the 1" - unless you are going to make a bench vise.

 

[Inspector]

Did a search for wood threading tools and found Amazon has a few. Maybe they ship to you. A search of asian selling sites might have the same at lower prices.

https://www.amazon.com/DCT-Wood-Dow...od+Threading+Tools&qid=1714841520&sr=8-4&th=1

Pete

 

[Jester129]

@Inspector - I looked on Amazon but obviously used the wrong terminology as it came up with nothing. Just shows to go you! Thankyou, my wife used to be able to find stuff, just as you do. It's cheaper than the wooden one that I found, but the plastic makes it look awful. I'll still be buying it in good time, so thanks again.

 

[ChaiLatte]

There seems to be a bit of variation in thread pitches among the various offerings.

I do not know if they are just listed badly or if the descriptions are actually correct and the product varies.

On the Amazon link above, the 3/4" one is described as 6tpi. Assuming a 60 degree thread form, that leaves a very small (less than 1/2") root diameter.

The Axminster FAQ for their product gives two contradictory answers.

Many other listings do not state the thread pitch at all.

The https://www.fine-tools.com/ one gives the most comprehensive data.

Reading up on them, the vee-gouge that cuts the male threads seems to be a bit of a weak point. If that is so, make sure the one you buy uses a standard cutter and make sure you have a source for a replacement in case it spoils.

This site has some interesting variations on the idea:

https://timothymooretools.com/making-wooden-screws/

 

[ColinDeVelen]

oldhandtools.co.uk sometimes have these, but you have to be quick.

 

[niall Y]

Apart from looking "arty" I feel that there are far better materials than wood, to make a screw thread out of.
I have had one of those old all beech clamps with the wooden thread , in my workshop for the best part of 30 years. It has never functioned satisfactorily all the time that I have had it. The wood screw is just far too prone to swelling in damp conditions. At which point it just locks in position and won't budge.
Having said that - Simon Hope sells quite a nifty thread cutting system for use on a lathe. The downside is , of course the cost -, especially for a one off, coupled with the fact that the threads are too fine for a vice.
However, If one has a lathe, the kit and a bit of ingenuity. it might be possible to, mimic the system he uses to build ones own jig

 

[duke]

I have seen the scaffold screw adjustment leg parts used as a vice screw. Google it.

 

[recipio]

I had a look around and the Maple / Taiwanese cutters seem to have disappeared. They were commonplace last time I looked.
www.fine-tools.com will sell you some very expensive cutters - beautifully made German tools.
For the OP the trick with threadcutting is precision. Drill the recommended holes , adjust the cutter to take a full depth cut and use lubrication. Oil is recommended but furniture wax is less messy. Don't use shop bought dowels. They must be perfectly round and the quality of wood is usually poor. Ash and maple make good threads which don't crumble.
I'd keep searching - there must be some threadboxes lurking somewhere.

 

[Inspector]

You can cut threads with a router that will chip and crumble less. They are available to cut up to 1 1/2".
https://www.leevalley.com/en-ca/sea...sort=relevancy&layout=card&numberOfResults=25

When they first came out I offered to get one for my father since the traditional thread box we had didn't work very well. He declined saying a saw blade would work better so I had a 7" diameter saw plate that was against another blade to make window parts remade with 60º teeth. He made jigs for the table saw and to prove a point his biggest thread was 4" in diameter. He hollowed one out to take a straight line grinder with a 3 wing 60º router bit as a powered tap. More than one way to skin kitties.

Pete

 

[Jester129]

Pete, that is SOME threading going on! Wow! Not quite what I had in mind. I looked at the Lee Valley kits and, to be honest, I didn't really like the look of them.
To all of the other people that have replied, some of the suggestions are great, some I couldn't find, but a THANK YOU to you all!
The ones I found were at Turners Retreat, but after reading all of the above, I have to wonder if it's the right thing to go with the wooden thread, due to expansion etc after all. Something to ruminate on, methinks. As usual you chaps come up trumps (not Donald, of course)!