Hi all, I started woodworking compliments of viewing many videos on YouTube so I wonder who has the same experiences, for me Steve Ramsay is great because he keeps his method of delivery simple & easy to follow, I also like Rags & Bone & Stephens 8*6 Workshop for British inspiration, also from abroad I enjoy viewing a new fellow from Australia who's channel is called Sumo's Projects, it's very Aussie, from Canada I enjoy Kennyearings channel & Slovenia it's Sawblade Projects. Just a lot of fun to be involved in this wonderful community that is universal & I would recommend that you take a look at these YouTube producers, ok carry on & would love to hear your feedback !
Who watches YouTube videos & are they helpful ?
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DiscoStu
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Yes I watch a lot of YouTube videos. A least I watch things on a subject I'm interested in rather than "say yes to the dress" which is the sort of drivel my wife enjoys. Plenty of good stuff out there. Peter Parfitt, Steve Ramsey, The wood whisper, April Wilkerson. and many more
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The problem with youtube woodworkers is that there are so many of them and you can easily find yourself sucked into spending so much time watching them that you don't spend any time in the workshop. I unsubscribed from all of them last year apart from Doucette and Wolfe, Frank Howarth and Matthias Wandel, now I just use youtube to research specific techniques or tools as and when I need to, otherwise watching videos becomes a substitute for actually making anything yourself.
memzey
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He's not everyone's cup of tea but I'm a big fan of Paul Sellers. I don't know of another that teaches core skills in such a thorough and methodical way. His blog posts can come across a bit messianic at times but he's extremely skilled and his videos are great. One thing about there being so many channels on YouTube is that different people will often give different advice on tackling the same problem. This can lead to much confusion. I've found it best to stick to one virtual "teacher" to try and understand his methods first without running down hundreds of different rabbit holes (others may have a different view).
ScaredyCat
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I used to watch a lot of motorcycle reviews, then one day some woodworking channel popped up in my feed and that's basically started me on my journey. Regularly watch
Steve Ramsey
David Stanton
WoodWorkWeb - Really like this, good for beginners.
Izzy Swan
Woodworking Masterclass
Stumpy Nubs
Paul Sellers in small chunks, sometimes at 2x speed
Adrian Preda has few videos but I really like what he's made.
Peter Parfitt - though I suspect he's sponsored by axminster so I've cut him out a bit.
Steve Ramsey
David Stanton
WoodWorkWeb - Really like this, good for beginners.
Izzy Swan
Woodworking Masterclass
Stumpy Nubs
Paul Sellers in small chunks, sometimes at 2x speed
Adrian Preda has few videos but I really like what he's made.
Peter Parfitt - though I suspect he's sponsored by axminster so I've cut him out a bit.
Random Orbital Bob
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I would enthusiastically endorse any medium which helps to pass on knowledge. The modern era of the internet means we all have access to fabulous, category specific moving images which go right to the heart of satisfying every special interest group on the planet. This, in a way that just wasn't possible 10-15 years ago. What a staggeringly useful resource!
But, I echo the sentiments above in that YT content is knowledge, not skill. The skill can only be learned by doing not watching. Secondly, be judicious about who is teaching you because there is a great deal of appalling content out there which isn't going to send you in the right direction. Some of the names quoted in this thread are some of the better one for sure. Finally, if you're really committed to developing your skill, I still believe there is no better method than to attend a proper course whether it's long or short. It's dedicated, with appropriate skills and tools and no interruptions.
But, I echo the sentiments above in that YT content is knowledge, not skill. The skill can only be learned by doing not watching. Secondly, be judicious about who is teaching you because there is a great deal of appalling content out there which isn't going to send you in the right direction. Some of the names quoted in this thread are some of the better one for sure. Finally, if you're really committed to developing your skill, I still believe there is no better method than to attend a proper course whether it's long or short. It's dedicated, with appropriate skills and tools and no interruptions.
Steve Maskery
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There are some very good names in that list.
For me, the biggest problem is that so much of the tablesaw use is downright dangerous. For beginners who don't understand the dangers, that presents a real risk of getting hurt.
I really must shift my bottom and get my own filming kit up and running again.
For me, the biggest problem is that so much of the tablesaw use is downright dangerous. For beginners who don't understand the dangers, that presents a real risk of getting hurt.
I really must shift my bottom and get my own filming kit up and running again.
transatlantic
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I love watching wood working content on youtube, and listening to podcasts. I tend to prefer the longer format videos. I don't feel as though I learn much from the faster paced stuff, its more for entertainment value than anything.
I definately prefer the British stuff, as I can often relate to the size of their workshop and the equipment they have to hand. It's very easy to watch something like the Wood Whisperer and be intimidated by all the equipment he has in his huge 3 door garage, or the premium materials he uses.
I just wish people would make videos for the woodworking though. It's seems like everyone is trying to make a living from it or a quick buck and you end up with all the product placement, annoying advertisments and the "Like, Share and Subscribe" crap every 5 minutes. Yes. Youtube has been around now for quite some time. We know how to subscribe to your channel. No need to mention at the end of EVERY bloody video. Some of them even put it in the middle of the video now so you can't just skip it at the end. ffs.
Having said that. I'm probably sounding ungrateful. I'd rather have those annoyances than no woodworking content at all!
I definately prefer the British stuff, as I can often relate to the size of their workshop and the equipment they have to hand. It's very easy to watch something like the Wood Whisperer and be intimidated by all the equipment he has in his huge 3 door garage, or the premium materials he uses.
I just wish people would make videos for the woodworking though. It's seems like everyone is trying to make a living from it or a quick buck and you end up with all the product placement, annoying advertisments and the "Like, Share and Subscribe" crap every 5 minutes. Yes. Youtube has been around now for quite some time. We know how to subscribe to your channel. No need to mention at the end of EVERY bloody video. Some of them even put it in the middle of the video now so you can't just skip it at the end. ffs.
Having said that. I'm probably sounding ungrateful. I'd rather have those annoyances than no woodworking content at all!
Steve Maskery
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transatlantic":9sdf6p9n said:
How would you fund it? Making films and doing it well takes time and money. Seriously, how do you think it should be funded?
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Random Orbital Bob
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The problem is "progress" isn't it. YT has become THE place to set your stall out now and has massively replaced DVD sales for special interest content. And of course why wouldn't it? it's streamable anywhere you have wifi and on multiple devices....doesn't get any more convenient than that for the consumer. So knowing it's the goto media of choice for people to consume knowledge, people that are adding value in that world have to find ways of shifting their revenue model to suit the new environment or their revenue will just taper until there's nothing left. it's one of those horrible business transformation realities when the traditional delivery method has been made obsolete by a transforming technology. If folk don't adapt to the new media, they're basically in trouble. But the consumer has to realise there's a price to pay for all that convenience and that's what you're seeing with all the promotion of the very means by which the content providers get their revenue ie through subs or product sponsorship. People gotta eat
transatlantic
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Steve Maskery":37wwmzph said:
I meant I prefer the channels that produce content as more of a hobby instead of focusing on the income aspect. I know there are those that need to make a living from it, I just tend to find the quality of the content much better when they're focusing on teaching or explaining and not making money.
But there are those that do it for a living and still don't add all the annoying crap - take for example Mathias Wandel.
bugbear
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95% or more of youTube is unwatchable trash.
But YouTube is so big that the remaining 5% still constitutes a lot of good stuff.
Sometimes finding it is a wheat/chaff problem.
BugBear
But YouTube is so big that the remaining 5% still constitutes a lot of good stuff.
Sometimes finding it is a wheat/chaff problem.
BugBear
Steve Maskery
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transatlantic":1m5sojgb said:
Fair enough, but you still haven't answered the question. How do you think it should be funded?
I'm pretty sure that Matthias does not do this for a living. He may make some money at it, I don't know, but I'd be astonished if he makes a living from woodworking media.transatlantic":1m5sojgb said:
I'm not knocking Mathias, not at all, he is a Top Bloke. But you can't use him as a model for woodwork filming.
transatlantic
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Steve Maskery":ne0tibth said:
Funding for what? ... I'm talking about the people who post videos as a hobby and aren't in it for the funding. If you're talking about funding of youtube itself through it's own adverts, that's not the advertisment I was refering to.
Pretty sure Mathias Wandel does make a living from being a content creater. I seem to recall him saying he gets most of his income from selling plans, which of course is going to be traffic directed largely from youtube. Another example is John Heisz.
Im not sure what you mean be that. He has nearly a million subscribers in a pretty niche market. He's clearly doing something right.
Steve, as far as I understand it, there are two main funding models at present. The older one is to produce content and try to get enough viewers and subscribers so that YT give you a cut of the adverts which they place beside your videos, before your videos start, or even during them.
The other model is the same, but with a level of nagging for donations. I get the impression that Patreon do this quite nicely, appealing to people's gratitude and better natures. Most people will continue to watch for free, but some will toss a coin into your virtual busker's cap.
I expect if you get loads of viewers, other levels of reward kick in - freebies from grateful machinery sellers, the odd week on the Google corporate yacht, sugary doughnuts, groupies, all that sort of thing... :wink:
The other model is the same, but with a level of nagging for donations. I get the impression that Patreon do this quite nicely, appealing to people's gratitude and better natures. Most people will continue to watch for free, but some will toss a coin into your virtual busker's cap.
I expect if you get loads of viewers, other levels of reward kick in - freebies from grateful machinery sellers, the odd week on the Google corporate yacht, sugary doughnuts, groupies, all that sort of thing... :wink:
novocaine
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AndyT":az02udq9 said:
wood working Groupies? oh, you mean middle aged men with pony tails, moobs and a gut you could hide good lunch under. not exactly rock and or roll is it.
novocaine":3nqtyrhp said:wood working Groupies? oh, you mean middle aged men with pony tails, moobs and a gut you could hide good lunch under. not exactly rock and or roll is it.
What absolute nonsense ...
I DO NOT have a pony tail.
I get a lot from watching youtube videos - so much so, that it inspired me to have a go myself! I like to watch them to see techniques. Some have too much preamble for me before getting to the demonstration of techniques and skills but it's very easy to skip through to different parts. Some are very watchable in their entirety - Frank Howarth and Clickspring come to mind. Mike Waldt's and Martin Saban-Smith's have a lot of interesting stuff in.
