Which Dust Extractor

[phil p]

Hi Everyone.

New, and first time user of this great forum.

Could anyone please advise me of the best dust extractor between these few I'm looking to purchase in the next few weeks

Camvac 286 (36 Litre)

Record RSDE - P

I thought it was between these 2 however Ive been reading good things on this site about the Trend 30AF and the Festool Mini, but the Festool is a bit out of my price range.

The main use would be to extract MDF from a router and tablesaw.

Any recomendations?

Many Thanks

 

[Mike.C]

Hi Phil welcome to the forum.

Even though the Festool, Trend, Camvac and Record would be perfect for the router, the first two will be no good for a table saw, unless you have a really small model.

IMHO the Camvac is the better one (I have a twin motor 386) but the Record I am sure would be alright too.

Has you saw got a 100mm outlet because I believe the Camvac 286 comes with something like a 60mm one as standard, although you can ask them to fit a 100mm. Are you thinking about going for the twin or single motor?

Cheers

Mike

 

[phil p]

Thanks for that Mike


Phil

 

[Mike.C]

Phil were you thinking about the twin or single motor Camvac?

Cheers

Mike

 

[phil p]

Hi Mike

forgot to add, the tablesaw is a Ryobi, not 100% of the model number but roughly looks about a 3 inch outlet at the back

Phil

 

[phil p]

Hi Mike,

probobly a single motor?

Take it a twin motor would be double the suction?

Phil

 

[Mike.C]

Not only double the suction but you can then on and off individually as needed.

Cheers

Mike

 

[Streepips]

Personally I would not bu any tin drum type extractor, the sheer noise alone is a terrible distraction and they fill up quickly unless you are just producing fine dust. and they totally defeat their own purpose of keeping you out of harms way from dust inhalation when it comes to emptying....I think they are a nightmare. far sooner use such as a Scheppach 26 or an Axminster ADE model..
Had all of these and I know out of them all I would never buy or recommend a drum/bin type again

 

[gardenshed]

Hi Phil

I've had a couple of Camvacs, and they are very noisy. Never again.
The Trend AF is much much quieter imho and you get the tools to clean up afterwards thrown in and money left over to buy ....erm.. more tools



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[Mike.C]

Streepips wrote

Personally I would not bu any tin drum type extractor, the sheer noise alone is a terrible distraction and they fill up quickly unless you are just producing fine dust. and they totally defeat their own purpose of keeping you out of harms way from dust inhalation when it comes to emptying...

He is producing fine dust "MDF", and IMHO a drum type ( with triple filter) is far better for this type of dust then the twin bag type, unless you have a fine filter on top, but even then when it comes to MDF, I am not too happy with these.
When you say the Scheppach 26 i presume you mean the HA2600 which I also have (including the fine filter) and emptying these bags keeps you no more "out of harms way" then emptying the drum type. As soon as you release the strap around the plastic bag dust shoots up into the air. At least with the drum you can put a sack over the top and tip the drum up into the sack.

If he had not said he works mostly with MDF I would not have agreed that a drum type would be suitable because they do fill up quick with normal soft or hardwood, but with MDF I stand by what I said.

As for the noise yes the drum type are noisy, but there are a lot more noisy machines in a workshop, and anyway you should really be protecting your hearing with ear muffs and then the noise would not be a problem.

I did say that if he had a small saw the Festool and Trend would be suitable and as it now appears he has, both the Trend and Festool would suit him also, and maybe even better at least for the router.

Cheers

Mike

 

[phil p]

Must admit I still fancy the drum type, mainly for the space it takes and must admit when it comes down to emptying I would just do as Mike suggests and just stick a bag over it, bearing in mind also that I would empty it outside anyway and probobly wear a mask for good measure.

Not to bothered about the noise issue but do take it on board, it would be used in my garage so I want the best for the dust extraction rather than the noise, again I do take issue of the noise factor.


Phil

 

[harryc]

Hi Phil,

I have the RSDE1 mainly due to the fact that my workshop is also my garage so space is a major issue, it sits under my work bench. Yes it is noisy but no more than the planer or jointer!
Unless you have a large dedicated workshop I think the drum vac is probably the best option.

Harry.

 

[motownmartin]

Hi Phil,

I have the RSDE1 mainly due to the fact that my workshop is also my garage so space is a major issue, it sits under my work bench. Yes it is noisy but no more than the planer or jointer!
Unless you have a large dedicated workshop I think the drum vac is probably the best option.

Harry.

Same here but could do with a bit more suction for the thicknesser and would probably buy a twin motor drum type to do the job.

 

[Mike.C]

Martin what is it like connected to a thicknesser, does it fill up quick?

Cheers

Mike

 

[motownmartin]

Martin what is it like connected to a thicknesser, does it fill up quick?

Cheers

Mike

Hi Mike,
Yes it fills fairly quick, I've done some today and it was full in about half an hour but its no skin off my nose.
I like the idea of those wall mounted units but with the way my workshop is theres no where to put it, besides I like to wheel it to the machine that i am using.
Talking of workshops, there was water coming through the roof last night so I had a rusty table saw this morning

 

[Mike.C]

I thought it would, but theres nothing wrong with that, at least you know it is doing its job properly, and as you say, you can move it where you want too.

Sorry to hear about the leak in your roof mate. Thats your No1 job then. Good luck with it and get it done sooner rather then later :roll:

Cheers

Mike

 

[motownmartin]

I thought it would, but theres nothing wrong with that, at least you know it is doing its job properly, and as you say, you can move it where you want too.

Sorry to hear about the leak in your roof mate. Thats your No1 job then. Good luck with it and get it done sooner rather then later :roll:

Cheers

Mike

The only trouble is the roof is Asbestos :shock:

 

[Mike.C]

Oh **** :shock: , but if the hole is not to big you can still patch it up for now until you get it sorted out properly, can't you? But if you have to do any drilling make sure you are well protected. Hopefully a bit of sealant will do

On the other hand it maybe better asking someone on here or elsewhere who really knows about this sort of thing because I am only guessing.

Cheers

Mike

 

[OPJ]

Hi Mike,
Yes it fills fairly quick, I've done some today and it was full in about half an hour but its no skin off my nose.
I like the idea of those wall mounted units but with the way my workshop is theres no where to put it, besides I like to wheel it to the machine that i am using.
Talking of workshops, there was water coming through the roof last night so I had a rusty table saw this morning

Hi Martin. You may recall I was in a similar situation a while back (we have the same AW106PT P/T) and, in the end, I found a year-old ADE1200 extractor on eBay and I've been very impressed with the results.

When the collection bag's empty and the filter on top is pretty clean, the suction you get from this machine is quite incredible! :shock: It does a superb job with the planer and thicknesser mode. I still can't tell you how it compares to the Record Power Cx2600 though. But it's very quiet running and works very well with my bandsaw and router table too. At least now I can keep my RSDE2-A for fine MDF and power tools use only. :wink: The guy I bought it off had also used it successfully with a drum sander too.

They're no more than 5ft tall and have a relatively small footprint for a twin-bag machine. I'd recommend you seriously consider it.

 

[motownmartin]

Thanks olly I will keep a look out.