What would YOU do if?

[Jake]

Oh the contorted legalistic mind! Wonder what happened to taking responsibility for your own actions?

You are so gullible. I'm a sceptic. Got a reference, Thomvic? I've heard several versions of this, some with ladders, some with blah blah blah. Never found a report of the case itself though!

(And even on the version of events as reported, the insurer may have just settled because the claim was not worth the money to fight)

 

[rileytoolworks]

Lend out your tools, but make sure you say a proper Hollywood style goodbye to them first...
But seriously, if you're asking the question I'm guessing you either don't trust the dude, or his ability to PROPERLY use the tools. Don't lend them, but off to show him how to do the job with HIS tools.

 

[Digit]

You are so gullible.

Yep! I even believed my solicitor and pleaded not guilty. Didn't work though.

Roy.

 

[Jake]

You are so gullible.

Yep! I even believed my solicitor and pleaded not guilty. Didn't work though.

Wonder what happened to taking responsibility for your own actions?

 

[Digit]

I did, and hired a solicitor who was supposed to know the law and advise accordingly, he took my money on that basis.

Roy.

 

[Jake]

It isn't a science - and then again maybe you just chose the wrong one.

Anyway, your personal gripe about one individual lawyer who didn't get you off a criminal charge is OT.

I do not think any court would find someone who lent a neighbour a hand-tool like, say, a chisel, had any duty of care to ensure that the neighbour used the chisel safely.

If it was a chainsaw, I'd hesitate more.

 

[Digit]

True! So would you like me list some of the other foul ups, one of which resulted in the solicitor being disciplined by your regulatory body?
Granted my experiences may not be typical Jake, but they all caused me certain difficulties and left me with doubts as to the standard of competence amongst some of the profession.

Roy.

 

[Jake]

Lawyers are human shock.

Some are rubbish, at least some of the time. I spend some of my time suing them for that so it's no surprise to me. On the other hand I also defend some sometimes.

Sometimes they are bang to rights, sometimes it is very grey, and sometimes the ex-client is really the one at fault and has no case against the lawyer but refuses to accept it.

You do seem to have had more than the usual amount of contact with the legal profession, Roy, for some reason. Unless you've chosen badly every single time?

It's all still OT.

 

[thomvic]

Jake,

Quote "Got a reference Thomvic?"

No, unfortunately. It was in a journal issued either by Croner or the H&S consultancy that my employing company used. It was at least five years ago. Perhaps, given your profession, you could use your resources to determine whether or not such a case has ever been tested in court

 

[Digit]

Seems I have chosen badly. One road traffic offense where I was found guilty under a 1911? decision that the master is responsible for the acts of the servant, that goes back to the Roman decision that the master was responsible for the acts of the slave, barrel scraping I think, certainly fooled my brief.
One foul up over an endowment, one over payment by the solicitor of poll tax when house sale was complete, one where a house sale was lost 'cos the solicitor's people sent the paperwork to the wrong address, managed to get the bill to me though!
Another where I had to deal with the vendor's solicitor then informed my solicitor of what had been done, he then sent me a letter bringing the info up to date and tried to charge me £12 for the letter!

Roy.

 

[Jake]

Jake,

Quote "Got a reference Thomvic?"

No, unfortunately. It was in a journal issued either by Croner or the H&S consultancy that my employing company used. It was at least five years ago. Perhaps, given your profession, you could use your resources to determine whether or not such a case has ever been tested in court

I have tried exactly that, on previous occasions - that's why I asked.

The mutiple versions of this story I have heard, with slightly differing facts each time, make me suspicious about its origins. It has the feel of a myth. If it isn't, I am willing to bet there is more to the real story than it seems.

 

[big soft moose]

After I sorted out an OLD chisel......he asked me what he should hit it with.
So I gave him my Lee nielson No5 plane

:shock: wouldnt it have been better for him to use a mallet ?

 

[big soft moose]

After I sorted out an OLD chisel......he asked me what he should hit it with.
So I gave him my Lee nielson No5 plane....

Wouldn't a mallet have been better? :? :lol:

doh - great minds and all that - i really ought to read the whole thread before posting

 

[krismusic]

I try to be helpful as I believe that it makes the world go round a bit better. I will lend tools. Don't think I have ever had a serious problem with people damaging them. I can understand not wanting to lend something really special but I think some people have an over active imagination of what could happen to their tool.

 

[kityuser]

but I think some people have an over active imagination of what could happen to their tool.

sounds painfull! :shock:

Steve