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dicktimber":1y5vhzr2 said:
So are you all saying the WAR YEARS meant nothing?

Remember Aunt Doris lending your Mum her darning needle, so you went to school in socks that your big toe didn't peep out of the end.Or your Dad borrowing that metal shoe thingie with like three sets of flat feet on it to put a new sole on your school shoes, or even borrowing next doors jam pan?......
Mind you my mate wanted to borrow my lambourginnnnnnnie last week.....but I told him to catch the bus!

And consider this.....
There are people who buy expensive, and I mean expensive woodworking tools and never use them...they make display cabinets for them and have them lacquered, with their serial numbers kept logged in books.

No they aren't train spotters...woodies.....!!!
I know it's unbelievable.....

So anyone reconsidering lending a chisel to the neighbor????

Mike

I just love you lot!!!!!!!!!!!!
Go back to bed Victor Meldrew ;)

I will happily lend a chisel to a neighbour, as I stated at the start of this thread, but it would be one of the ones that cost me a fiver for the set and not one that cost me £45 for a single chisel.

I agree with your comments to a degree, but back then (the war years) people had more respect for each others belongings because very few people had anything at all. Nowadays the throwaway, consumable world we live in means that people care a lot less for their (or other people's) stuff because another one can be procured very easily and comparatively cheaply.

I look after everything I own because regardless whether it cost £1 or £10,000 I had to work hard for wach and every one of those £'s. I have a few friends and relatives who I would trust with any of my belongings, everyone else needs to earn that trust.

Now I've bitten well and truly I'll go back to watching the football. :D

Cheers

Mark
 
I always felt a lot of sympathy with Victor, remember the episode when someone dumped a 2-CV in his skip? :lol:

Roy.
 
I used to lend my stuff to a bloke I knew fairly well, until....

I was watching him saw some old floor boards and there were sparks shooting out of it as he cut with a nice, newish looking circular saw. " Errr.. I think you've left some nails in that" says me, "Don't matter, not my saw" says he :shock: :shock:

Since then I've always 'just lent to my brother' whatever it is he wanted.
 
dicktimber":uzivea7k said:
.Or your Dad borrowing that metal shoe thingie with like three sets of flat feet on it to put a new sole on your school shoes,

I think it was called a "last"...don't know why

Davon
 
dicktimber":2z1ivgwz said:
So are you all saying the WAR YEARS meant nothing?

Remember Aunt Doris lending your Mum her darning needle, so you went to school in socks that your big toe didn't peep out of the end.Or your Dad borrowing that metal shoe thingie with like three sets of flat feet on it to put a new sole on your school shoes, or even borrowing next doors jam pan?......
Mind you my mate wanted to borrow my lambourginnnnnnnie last week.....but I told him to catch the bus!

And consider this.....
There are people who buy expensive, and I mean expensive woodworking tools and never use them...they make display cabinets for them and have them lacquered, with their serial numbers kept logged in books.

No they aren't train spotters...woodies.....!!!
I know it's unbelievable.....

So anyone reconsidering lending a chisel to the neighbor????

Mike

I just love you lot!!!!!!!!!!!!

Are the Gerries invading again? As far as I knew, the war was over 60 years ago. I'll keep my tools that I've worked hard to afford nicely locked away in my cabinet. In this day and age, there is no excuse to do almost any job yourself unless physically unable. If we lent everything we worked hard for to people who don't then all we are doing is encouraging people to be lazy and expect others to provide for them.

It's like the phrase: you can give me a fish and he'll have a nice fish and chip supper, or you can teach him how to fly fish and he'll stand like a muppet in a river every weekend trying to catch salmon - or as least I think that's how it goes? ;-)
 
dexter":q5m2pj5n said:
`Never lend your tools to anyone, especially ----ing plumbers` was what I was told when I was an apprentice.

Dex

Oi' I take exception to that. :lol:

Rich.
 
NeilO":26oxz2e4 said:
I`ll take it your a `kin plumber then, Rich :lol:

and NO you cant "borrow" my tools, mate :wink:

Yes mate, :lol: :lol: :lol: :wink:

Rich.
 
I do have cheap tools as well as costly ones. However the cheap ones tend to be old car boot finds that I have lavished a lot of time and attention on to make good. I would happily give away stuff to someone who needed it. I don't have to worry about what happens to it or how they treat it.

I gave a car (2.0i Montego estate with 3months tax and 6months MOT ) to neighbour once when their camper van engine blew up the weekend before their holiday. I was going to get another car anyway and they needed the car more then I needed the paltry trade in value.
 
i simply tell them that any damage or breakage they will pay for and i tell them how much the tools cost they want to borrow.

if they agree then they can still borrow them.

simple :)
 
I try to encourage borrowers to buy a cheap version of what they want to borrow, on the basis that if they did this each time when they have a small job to do, they will soon amass a small collection of tools for future use. As they wear the cheaper ones out they can replace them with better quality versions.

I still add to my collection like this. I buy a good quality router bit for a special application. Although it sometimes an expense, the bit is then available for future use.

Some listen, others can't be bothered.
 
I treat a tool to be lent out like a gambling stake - the original investment is lost and anything that comes back is an unexpected bonus.
If in the circumstance I am not able or willing to right off the cost and time invested in the tool, then I may offer to do the job myself, but the tool stays with me. Otherwise I gamble.
 
hi

no ,no, never. My tools are for my exclusive use only ,always have been and always will be .

even when working in the dockyard with nine other joiners & all sorts of cowboys when i first went in there any body who opened my tool box and took out a tool, god help them, they soon learnt, i think it was the blank look they got with the large mallet that hung on the wall behind me painted on it (don't ask) .

Good quality tools are bloody expensive nobody will treats your tools like you do, any one who asked would be told i had to buy mine, which at times left me with no money , you go and do the same mate. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: hc
 
You should never lend your tools to anyone who is not adequately trained and/or exerienced enough to use them and here's why:

Fred, a kitchen fitter, lent his table saw to neighbour DIY enthusiast Joe to cut some laminate flooring. Joe badly cut his hand with said saw resulting in several weeks off work. Joe claimed on his mortgage guarantee insurance due to loss of earnings. Joe's insurers counter claimed off Fred. Fred referred it to his own public liability insurer who settled out of court on the basis that a court would have found Fred guilty of neglect in that he didn't ensure that Joe was competent to use the saw.

This is a summary of an article in a Health and Safety journal a few years ago. The stuation would be no different if the tool were a chisel or even a hammer.
 
Oh the contorted legalistic mind! Wonder what happened to taking responsibility for your own actions?

Roy.
 

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