Thanks for links, ive decided on getting a 10 20 size drum sander. It would be mainly narrow timber and short lengths, no longer than 700mm id want to sand and i always though go bigger but im short of space and so will see how i get along with a 10/20 size first...I have been looking at the Charnwood 10/20, can be bought new for £679 at moment with a 5 year warranty...I know its not a Laguna or similar but £500 cheaper than a second hand Laguna and the size fits into my plans at the moment