VED - Road Tax

[Digit]

Out of curiosity just what percentage of CO2 is private motoring supposed to contribute to the UK's total of emissions?

Roy.

 

[lurker]

Out of curiosity just what percentage of CO2 is private motoring supposed to contribute to the UK's total of emissions?

Roy.

I'd guess about 0.0001% of the emissions for UK government officials to keep going to these conferences about reducing man's environmental impact - but then some might say I'm a cynic.

 

[Digit]

Welcome to the club!! :lol:

Roy.

 

[big soft moose]

Out of curiosity just what percentage of CO2 is private motoring supposed to contribute to the UK's total of emissions?

Roy.

i cant find any figures for the uk ( despite a cursory and incomplete search :lol but globally motoring (including lorrys and buses) accounts for about 15% of anthropogenic co2 release

 

[Digit]

Likewise Moose I have been unable to find anything, thus I can neither challenge nor support the government view, hence my suspicions of their stated reasons for punitive taxation.

Roy.

 

[Dibs-h]

The only problem with that Jon is that the ar$e has fallen out of the 2nd hand 4x4 market, principally due to the increased VED. My brother lost £4k on a used 4x4 in just 1 year - little to do with depreciation, more to do with reduced market.

Cheers

Karl

There's going to come a point where the car costs say £2k, but the VED costs £450 and I don't think that's a long way, especially if DufGuv manage to retrospectively apply the higher charges, if they haven't already.

I think the argument that VED is anything but a tax stream (to pay for the fat *******s and their mandarins\chums pensions, junkets, housing, etc.) is somewhat laughable. Reading yesterday that Generals\Admirals have to travel economy class on trains, etc. whilst MPs and Ministers don't have to. Bit hilarious considering the General\Admiral is likely to be reading\dealing with classified material whilst the sh!t of an MP\Minister is likely to be cooking his\her books or pimping him\herself out! Go figure!

I suppose if we canned VED - the slimey toads would just put it on something else - like breathing! :roll:

 

[Digit]

like breathing!

Shoooosh!

Roy.

 

[RogerS]

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The other ironic thing is people who can afford to buy a car that retails at £23k plus and runs at 25mpg , whinging about the inequity of paying £435 pa to drive their performance toy
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Well, if that little statement isn't a value-judgement then I don't know what is.

At what 'value' would you find it acceptable ? £20,000? £200

Huge assumptions on your part - the biggest being that you assumed (wrongly) that it was bought brand new at £23k.

'Toy'...there's another one. All your prejudices and chips in one handy sentence.

you are determnined to turn this into an argument arent you

a) I'm fine with you (or anyone else) spending 23k or for that matter 23 million on a car, you want to buy a bugati veron or a DB9 or a ferrari diablo or whatever , you go for it, I could give a **** - so i'm not sure where the "what ammount would be acceptable" comes from

b) Huge assumption on your part that i'm talking about just you - the point is that its ironic that anyone who can afford to buy and run a sports car would find 435 quid a year a big deal. (even if the car was bought second hand the 435 quid pales into insignificance compared to the fuel tax)

c) "toy" it is you who is insistent that you "need" this car for the purposes of enjoyment - what else would you call something that you buy to play with :roll:

(and the idea that i am predjudiced against sports car owners is a product of your fertile imagination - as i said way back on page one my wife drives one - and she chooses to drive a less practical car for the purposes of enjoyment also, but she accepts that its a choice and thus isnt whinging about the VED )

Your statement as quoted by me stands on its' own two feet. I'll leave it for others whether or not they agree with me that you were applying a very skewed value-judgement. A judgement that you are now trying justify but you're back-pedalling faster than a circus trick-cyclist.

 

[Lons]

Whoah fellas are we due a "time out" on this one. :roll:

It ain't winable! :lol:

 

[Philly]

Yet another "politics-free" and "no personal attacks" thread in our old friend the OT forum.....
Guys - please take a deep breath before posting yet more of these. The workshop awaits you!
Philly