Update: New shooting board to go with my Philly Plane

[Ironballs]

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction Karl. Think the plane will go well with a nice mahogany shooting board

 

[Harbo]

The handle on a LN 9 is nearer the middle

Philly's handle looks like a useful addition and I am sure he has tried it out?
But one thing comes to me is that is raises the CofG much higher and that might increase the danger of pulling the plane over from vertical?
The LN hotdog sits very low.

Rod

 

[Tom K]

Indeed, first prize goes to the forum's Plane Moral Conscience

This is what it looks like:

Nicely crafted, with a screw hole at each end for me to attach to the plane and it would be possible for me to attach it on either side. I would assume that for the appropriate fee Phil would sell as an aftermarket item for folks who already have one.

The final question remains, where to place the handle? Might get the double sided tape and have a few practice "thrusts" to see what feels best in the hand. All thoughts appreciated though and here are a couple of pics to how siting options

Just need to decide on the design for the shooting board now, choose the timber and make it. Expect it to be complete sometime in late November then.....

Was the handle intended to be fitted that way round doesnt look too comfy?

 

[Waka]

Very nice indeed, Philly certainly knows how to put them together.

 

[Philly]

Glad you like your plane, Damian!
Karl - one is on its way :wink:

The grip is really for the thumb - the rest of the fingers wrap around the edge of the plane into the throat. I've tested it out on certainly local toolheads and it got the thumbs up. Personally, I prefer to use theplane without, but then I've been using mine for years and I'm comfortable with it.

Enjoy,
Philly

 

[Blister]

Is that it :?

A week on tender hooks :?

Its a piece of wood

not jealous at all [-X

no not at all

only one thing wrong , its not in my workshop :lol:

8) 8) 8)

hope you enjoy it :wink:

 

[John. B]

IT'S A PLANE :roll: no it's not, it's a bird :? It's not I tell you, IT'S A PLANE #~*% ARE YOU SURE :-k
Yup!

John. B

 

[bugbear]

Indeed, first prize goes to the forum's Plane Moral Conscience

This is what it looks like:

Nicely crafted, with a screw hole at each end for me to attach to the plane and it would be possible for me to attach it on either side. I would assume that for the appropriate fee Phil would sell as an aftermarket item for folks who already have one.

The final question remains, where to place the handle? Might get the double sided tape and have a few practice "thrusts" to see what feels best in the hand. All thoughts appreciated though and here are a couple of pics to how siting options

You're going to want it well up on the plane body.

Remember that the plane needs to be pushed ALONG (to do the cutting) DOWN (to keep it seated on the track) and IN (to keep it seated on the fence).

If the handle is too near the sole of the plane it will be very difficult to keep the plane seated on the fence.

BugBear

 

[Derek Cohen (Perth Oz)]

Both Philly's and BB's comments are in line with my own. A handle/hotdog for a shooting plane has to do two things similtaneously - push the plane body into the board and drive the plane forward.

Here is a LV LA Jack with hotdog ..

And an HNT Gordon Trying Plane with handle ...

The Stanley #51 is different in that it has the #52 to guide it, so all the tote must do is drive the plane forward. It is set further back on the plane.

Regards from Perth

Derek

 

[Karl]

Karl - one is on its way :wink:

 

[Chris Knight]

Remember that the plane needs to be pushed ALONG (to do the cutting) DOWN (to keep it seated on the track) and IN (to keep it seated on the fence).

If the handle is too near the sole of the plane it will be very difficult to keep the plane seated on the fence.

BugBear

Just have a care when keeping the plane into the work/fence. Remember when using a standard shooting board, it is actually guided by a sliver of uncut shooting board below the edge of the plane iron. Too much inward pressure and it is easy to overcome the downward pressure and it "rocks" over the sliver causing an angled cut. This is an easy thing to avoid as long as one is aware of the potential problem.

 

[Ironballs]

Thanks for the tips chaps, having never used a shooting board I'm allowed to ask obvious/daft questions. So.... do you plane one handed and hold the piece with the other or do you clamp and plane two handed?

Whether you plane one or two handed will have a big influence on location of the handle.

And in reply to one of the earlier comments, yes I did think it looked a little uncomfortable straight out of the box (the handle), however when you place on the body of the plane Philly is right. It's just there to hook your thumb around, your palm is one the corner and your fingers wrap over the sides, as a consequence it feels very comfortable

 

[Karl]

Single handed - using the other hand to slide the workpiece upto the sole of the plane after every shaving.

Ever seen David Charlesworths DVD on shooting planes? You can borrow mine if not - PM me your address.

Cheers

Karl

 

[Ironballs]

Might well take you up on that, thanks Karl

 

[shim20]

very nice enjoy it

 

[swagman]

Hmmm...pre-gloat?? You missed out on an oppertunity there, Waka :lol:
Cheers
Philly

Ok Philly, can you explain this phenomenon to me. Why is a Taffy not a Pom.

swagman.


very well made piece of English craftsmanship.
...

Not Hotley then as he is in Scotland
Philly is a taffy isn't he? :

 

[Escudo]

Say, Derek I like the look of that handle for your LAJ.

I use my LAJ as my plane of preference for shooting and have often thought that a handle would be a good adaption.

Did you make the handle yourself? How is it attached?

Very interesting.

Cheers, Tony.

 

[Philly]

Stewie
I am indeed Welsh, and as I come from South Wales, known by the Evil English as a Taff. :lol:
Fortunately I can speak their language so can move about amongst them incognito :wink:
Cheers
Philly

 

[Derek Cohen (Perth Oz)]

Hi Tony

The hotdog is one of mine. There are two articles/tutorials on my website:

Using solid wood and a mortice chisel:
http://www.inthewoodshop.com/ShopMadeTools/A Hotdog for the LV LAJ1.html

Laminating:
http://www.inthewoodshop.com/ShopMadeTools/Building the Hotdog Mk II for the LV LA Jack pics.html

Regards from Perth

Derek

 

[bugbear]

Stewie
I am indeed Welsh, and as I come from South Wales, known by the Evil English as a Taff. :lol:

Doesn't that mean I can shoot you "by accident" when practising with my longbow ? :twisted:

BugBear